NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017

[bitwelder]

 

The last dozen or more posts have been with Siglent as the topic of discussion in a KS thread. 

Rename the thread March Scopemonth? 

[tautech]

 

The last dozen or more posts have been with Siglent as the topic of discussion in a KS thread. 

Rename the thread March Scopemonth? 

Certainly seems that way, interesting times. 

Butting out now, we've got some new stuff coming soon too. 

[mrpackethead]

 

The last dozen or more posts have been with Siglent as the topic of discussion in a KS thread. 

Rename the thread March Scopemonth? 

Certainly seems that way, interesting times. 

Butting out now, we've got some new stuff coming soon too. 

Makes me dislike siglent even more.

[ws2812b]

Pretty loud too. My application is in a quiet, audio-based environment where I need to hear subtle changes in musical pitch.

The old DSO that I use the most has a custom fan which is both large and looks like something to drive a wind tunnel but is practically silent.  A couple of my most used analog oscilloscopes are completely silent which can be a problem as well; I have left both on at one time or another without noticing for a week.

I do not know why so many test instruments now have such loud fans.  Maybe thermal engineering is considered too simple to be given enough consideration.

I'm also searching a pretty quiet scope. Can you give an idea how loud "pretty loud" is? Is there a spec? The only scope where I found a spec in the data sheet (and is in my price and feature range ;-)), seems to be the RTB2000? https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-killer-scope-a-true-game-changer-from-rs-rtb2002-rtb2004/ There it says: "Audible noise | maximum sound pressure level at a distance of 1.0 m | 28.3 dB(A)"

[TheAmmoniacal]

I'm starting to lose track of what the different models can and can't do, how are the EDUX and DSOX different? Apart from the obvious - bandwidth and sample rate.

If we compare the EDUX1002G and DSOX1102G ...

Can the Ext Trig output also work as a digital input on the EDUX? So +/-1.6 or +/-8v? (mike says: "EDUX only has a single range for the EXT input, hence no relay")

The EDUX also has an option to enable Serial Triggering and Analysis (I²C, SPI, UART/RS-232), just not CAN and LIN?

Any other differences?

And is it correct that all models (A and G) has the training signals included? And these are generated by a hardware signal generator, it just doesn't have the frontend to the Gen Out?

[mikeselectricstuff]

There is a feature comparison table in the datasheet listing all the differences.

[TheAmmoniacal]

Alright, got that cleared up.

As it doesn't have SPI decoding, what about the Ext Trig as input?

[mikeselectricstuff]

Alright, got that cleared up.

As it doesn't have SPI decoding, what about the Ext Trig as input?

Pretty sure it has this,just only one voltage range

[snoopy]

I was wondering how long before SC came out with a review of this scope. Didn't take long because there's a review of the DSOX1102G in April Edition of Silicon Chip Magazine Interesting enough it talks about a 2Gs/s sampling rate for 4 channel models. Freudian slip ?

[TheAmmoniacal]

How many probe attenuation options does the scope give you? (Same for EDUX and DSOX I assume?) Does it have 0.2X and 0.5X for example?

If only Keysight would include the EDUX1EMBD I would throw my money at the 1002G.

[mikeselectricstuff]

How many probe attenuation options does the scope give you? (Same for EDUX and DSOX I assume?) Does it have 0.2X and 0.5X for example?

0.1 to 10000 in 1-2-5 steps. also -20 to +80dB in 0.1dB steps. Also volts & amps

[synthRodriguez]

Pretty loud too. My application is in a quiet, audio-based environment where I need to hear subtle changes in musical pitch.

The old DSO that I use the most has a custom fan which is both large and looks like something to drive a wind tunnel but is practically silent.  A couple of my most used analog oscilloscopes are completely silent which can be a problem as well; I have left both on at one time or another without noticing for a week.

I do not know why so many test instruments now have such loud fans.  Maybe thermal engineering is considered too simple to be given enough consideration.

I'm also searching a pretty quiet scope. Can you give an idea how loud "pretty loud" is? Is there a spec? The only scope where I found a spec in the data sheet (and is in my price and feature range ;-)), seems to be the RTB2000? https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-killer-scope-a-true-game-changer-from-rs-rtb2002-rtb2004/ There it says: "Audible noise | maximum sound pressure level at a distance of 1.0 m | 28.3 dB(A)"

Using my beat-up Radio Shack sound level meter I found in a parking lot along with my calibrated Stanley tape measure, I'm getting 56 dB at one meter, A-weighted when pointing it at the back of the unit.

[TheAmmoniacal]

Contacted my local Keysight distributor, 7 week delivery time on the EDUX1002G .. And no promos or package price for the decode option. Guess I'll wait a few weeks, keep an eye on the competition.

[mikeselectricstuff]

Contacted my local Keysight distributor, 7 week delivery time on the EDUX1002G .. And no promos or package price for the decode option. Guess I'll wait a few weeks, keep an eye on the competition.

Farnell are showing 34 in stock.
Also don't forget the Scope Month giveaweays!

[TheAmmoniacal]

Contacted my local Keysight distributor, 7 week delivery time on the EDUX1002G .. And no promos or package price for the decode option. Guess I'll wait a few weeks, keep an eye on the competition.

Farnell are showing 34 in stock.
Also don't forget the Scope Month giveaweays!

I wish it was that easy. Farnell is also the cheapest option, but Farnell Norway do not sell to individuals  . The only other option I know of locally is Elfa Distrelec (https://www.elfadistrelec.no/en/oscilloscope-2x50-mhz-gs-keysight-edux1002g/p/30081608) but they refuse to ship to me, as I only have a PO Box (living on a university campus)  .

My country is not eligible for the scopemonth, and no luck with Dave's giveaway (or ElectroBOOM's!). I guess I'll have to order it from abroad.. The fees associated with that stings though.

[nctnico]

Why do you even want the EDUX1002G? It is positioned to outfit a classroom at low cost. For personal use you can get so much better bang for your buck that it is borderline insane to buy it.

[TheAmmoniacal]

Why do you even want the EDUX1002G? It is positioned to outfit a classroom at low cost. For personal use you can get so much better bang for your buck that it is borderline insane to buy it.

My room is a classroom 

[Keysight DanielBogdanoff]

Contacted my local Keysight distributor, 7 week delivery time on the EDUX1002G .. And no promos or package price for the decode option. Guess I'll wait a few weeks, keep an eye on the competition.

Farnell are showing 34 in stock.
Also don't forget the Scope Month giveaweays!

I wish it was that easy. Farnell is also the cheapest option, but Farnell Norway do not sell to individuals  . The only other option I know of locally is Elfa Distrelec (https://www.elfadistrelec.no/en/oscilloscope-2x50-mhz-gs-keysight-edux1002g/p/30081608) but they refuse to ship to me, as I only have a PO Box (living on a university campus)  .

My country is not eligible for the scopemonth, and no luck with Dave's giveaway (or ElectroBOOM's!). I guess I'll have to order it from abroad.. The fees associated with that stings though.

You can go to http://www.keysight.com/find/distributor and get a full list of distributors for your country. I see 7 options for Finland.

[mikeselectricstuff]

Contacted my local Keysight distributor, 7 week delivery time on the EDUX1002G .. And no promos or package price for the decode option. Guess I'll wait a few weeks, keep an eye on the competition.

Farnell are showing 34 in stock.
Also don't forget the Scope Month giveaweays!

I wish it was that easy. Farnell is also the cheapest option, but Farnell Norway do not sell to individuals  . The only other option I know of locally is Elfa Distrelec (https://www.elfadistrelec.no/en/oscilloscope-2x50-mhz-gs-keysight-edux1002g/p/30081608) but they refuse to ship to me, as I only have a PO Box (living on a university campus)  .

My country is not eligible for the scopemonth, and no luck with Dave's giveaway (or ElectroBOOM's!). I guess I'll have to order it from abroad.. The fees associated with that stings though.

You can go to http://www.keysight.com/find/distributor and get a full list of distributors for your country. I see 7 options for Finland.

Speaking of Finland,  I'm surprised Daniel hasn't sent one to the Hydraulic Press channel....

[GlowingGhoul]

Contacted my local Keysight distributor, 7 week delivery time on the EDUX1002G .. And no promos or package price for the decode option. Guess I'll wait a few weeks, keep an eye on the competition.

Farnell are showing 34 in stock.
Also don't forget the Scope Month giveaweays!

I wish it was that easy. Farnell is also the cheapest option, but Farnell Norway do not sell to individuals  . The only other option I know of locally is Elfa Distrelec (https://www.elfadistrelec.no/en/oscilloscope-2x50-mhz-gs-keysight-edux1002g/p/30081608) but they refuse to ship to me, as I only have a PO Box (living on a university campus)  .

My country is not eligible for the scopemonth, and no luck with Dave's giveaway (or ElectroBOOM's!). I guess I'll have to order it from abroad.. The fees associated with that stings though.

You can go to http://www.keysight.com/find/distributor and get a full list of distributors for your country. I see 7 options for Finland.

Speaking of Finland,  I'm surprised Daniel hasn't sent one to the Hydraulic Press channel....

Something tells me Keysight will have plenty of DMMs available for the hydraulic press very soon.....

[bitwelder]

You can go to http://www.keysight.com/find/distributor and get a full list of distributors for your country. I see 7 options for Finland.

Errr.... for Norway (which should be TheAmmoniacal country) the FULL list is... 3 distributors, and one of the them is the above-mentioned Farnell.

[TheAmmoniacal]

You can go to http://www.keysight.com/find/distributor and get a full list of distributors for your country. I see 7 options for Finland.

Errr.... for Norway (which should be TheAmmoniacal country) the FULL list is... 3 distributors, and one of the them is the above-mentioned Farnell.

You're right. Lots of countries to keep track of!

Acal BFi and Farnell don't sell to individuals, and 4Test didn't get scopes during the first shipments - so a 7 week delivery time (for the next batches to arrive). I found it on RS Components though, but $120 more than other places

[mikeselectricstuff]

I found it on RS Components though, but $120 more than other places

May be worth contacting them to see if they will price-match

[znroot]

I've got my DSOX1102G today...
The first impression is it's a huge and quality upgrade over SDS1000X and DS2072A.
Now let's see how it work in a production lab 

[TheAmmoniacal]

Are there any soft carrying cases and front panel covers compatible with the new InfiniiVision 1000 X-Series?