NEW Keysight HD3

[tooki]

I haven't seen the full datasheet

Speak of the devil 

Hmm, haven't found the datasheet, but I did find two PDF app notes via Bing that are pretty revealing.

Please provide direct links, since none of the results I’m seeing appear related. (The results may vary by geographic location, or they may have been delisted.)

[mikeselectricstuff]

http://www.jays.co.kr/12_Files/Debug%20Automotive%20Serial%20Buses%20Quickly.pdf
http://jays.co.kr/12_Files/How%20to%20Make%20Ripple%20and%20Noise%20Measurements.pdf

This is about the only interesting stuff from the appnotes :

See What You’ve Been Missing
4x the resolution and up to 10x less noise
The HD3 Series brings Keysight’s industry-leading capabilities from high-performance scopes to the high-
volume level, making precision portable from 200 MHz to 1 GHz. Leveraging custom hardware
technology from the UXR Series, the HD3 boasts the most impressive resolution on the market with 4x
the vertical accuracy and up to 10x less noise than the competition. Paired with our fast, uncompromised
waveform update rate and 25x more memory, the HD3 Series is truly set apart from other oscilloscopes in
this class.

[jc101]

Reassuringly expensive no doubt, especially as many features will probably be additional licences, maybe even rented ones too.
Looks nice though.

[tautech]

http://www.jays.co.kr/12_Files/Debug%20Automotive%20Serial%20Buses%20Quickly.pdf
http://jays.co.kr/12_Files/How%20to%20Make%20Ripple%20and%20Noise%20Measurements.pdf

This is about the only interesting stuff from the appnotes :

See What You’ve Been Missing
4x the resolution and up to 10x less noise
The HD3 Series brings Keysight’s industry-leading capabilities from high-performance scopes to the high-
volume level, making precision portable from 200 MHz to 1 GHz. Leveraging custom hardware
technology from the UXR Series, the HD3 boasts the most impressive resolution on the market with 4x
the vertical accuracy and up to 10x less noise than the competition. Paired with our fast, uncompromised
waveform update rate and 25x more memory, the HD3 Series is truly set apart from other oscilloscopes in
this class.

Where's the MSO ?

[Anthocyanina]

...Leveraging custom hardware
technology from the UXR Series, the HD3 boasts the most impressive resolution on the market with 4x
the vertical accuracy and up to 10x less noise than the competition. Paired with our fast, uncompromised
waveform update rate and 25x more memory, the HD3 Series is truly set apart from other oscilloscopes in
this class.

i missed this bit. that explains the lack of a megazoom logo. so I guess megazoom 4 will be the last in the megazoom family?

[Martin72]

Looks a bit clunky....
We will know more next month, as a data sheet will then also be available.

[thm_w]

Doesn't really look like a $20k scope to me. Guess the MSO stuff is on the back?

edit: they show the noise in that document
- 422uVp-p 50uV RMS at 1mV + 50Ohm
- 871uVp-p 96uV RMS at 1mV + 1MOhm

[mikeselectricstuff]

Where's the MSO ?

Looks like the same probe as the previous models

[nctnico]

Looks a bit clunky....

And the screen is super tiny. If those pictures are the real thing, I think the HD3 is a flop due to the screen size alone. That is like an 8" or 9" 16:10 screen.

[thm_w]

And the screen is super tiny. If those pictures are the real thing, I think the HD3 is a flop due to the screen size alone. That is like an 8" or 9" 16:10 screen.

Measuring the image gave me a usable screen area of ~10.4"

[Martin72]

This actually looks even smaller than 10” in relation to the BNC sockets.
That would be a disappointment, in the expected price range at least 12” is the standard.

[2N3055]

Doesn't really look like a $20k scope to me. Guess the MSO stuff is on the back?

edit: they show the noise in that document
- 422uVp-p 50uV RMS at 50Ohm
- 871uVp-p 96uV RMS at 1MOhm

Make note that BW was not specified for those measurement.
10x less noise is also bogus claim.
Even if 49µV RMS was at full 1GHz BW, competition does not have 500µV RMS of noise at 1mv/div at 100us/div...
Also scope shows 3.2 GS/s with 1 and 2 ch enabled. I could not find image with 3 or 4 enabled.
It seems 100MPts/ch is max. (that is great improvement over old ones.)

[temperance]

Is anything known about The Handle? In terms of scent and color, Ceder wood would be nice I think and it keeps moths away.

[tszaboo]

Looks a bit clunky....
We will know more next month, as a data sheet will then also be available.

So it's not just me. I really like the shape of the MSOX 3000 series, this feels like a step back in terms of design. Maybe it's better IRL.

[temperance]

So it's not just me. I really like the shape of the MSOX 3000 series, this feels like a step back in terms of design. Maybe it's better IRL.

I don't know why all manufacturers are going back in time with only one set of knobs to operate all channels. I find that somehow annoying.

[EEVblog]

Reassuringly expensive no doubt, especially as many features will probably be additional licences, maybe even rented ones too.

There are no rented licenses according the datasheet. But of course al lthe usual suspects are there as upgrades.

[EEVblog]

So it's not just me. I really like the shape of the MSOX 3000 series, this feels like a step back in terms of design. Maybe it's better IRL.

I don't know why all manufacturers are going back in time with only one set of knobs to operate all channels. I find that somehow annoying.

There isn't really a choice when you have a modern big screen and 4 channels.

[EEVblog]

And the screen is super tiny. If those pictures are the real thing, I think the HD3 is a flop due to the screen size alone. That is like an 8" or 9" 16:10 screen.

Measuring the image gave me a usable screen area of ~10.4"

I'm not revealing much now by saying it's 10.1"

[EEVblog]

Where's the MSO ?

Looks like the same probe as the previous models

Different part number, but indeed looks the same physically, in whcih case that's really nice. I have when manufacturers change probes. Maybe it has to be a different part number because it comes with the license code in the box?

[EEVblog]

i missed this bit. that explains the lack of a megazoom logo. so I guess megazoom 4 will be the last in the megazoom family?

 

[temperance]

There isn't really a choice when you have a modern big screen and 4 channels.

A DSOX60 isn't that large with it's 15" TFT. About 40 cm wide.

[m98]

Did they outsource their industrial design to Yokogawa?

[Anthocyanina]

And the screen is super tiny. If those pictures are the real thing, I think the HD3 is a flop due to the screen size alone. That is like an 8" or 9" 16:10 screen.

Measuring the image gave me a usable screen area of ~10.4"

I'm not revealing much now by saying it's 10.1"

with that screen size it seems it's about as wide as the current 1000x series, maybe just a little bit wider, so this is quite compact horizontally. I wonder why they went for the chonky compact design

[ArdWar]

I'm not going to speculate on the specs or UX yet, but I don't like the control layout. This form factor only emphasize one thing I always hate with HPAK's design language... why are they hellbent on separating the vertical and horizontal control so far away? It's a s if they want to put them as far as possible from each other.

[EEVblog]

I'm not going to speculate on the specs or UX yet, but I don't like the control layout. This form factor only emphasize one thing I always hate with HPAK's design language... why are they hellbent on separating the vertical and horizontal control so far away? It's a s if they want to put them as far as possible from each other.

I rather like it. I like having the Horizontal at the top completely away from the Veritcal below.
I was using the Tek MDO3000 the other day, and boy how to I hate that Horizontal knob placement.