NEW Fluke 87-VI Multimeter

[EEVblog]

Just saw this on X, when did this drop?
New wireless version of the 85-V and presumably a direct replacement.
Complete with some new fangled test lead that lets you capture a reading.

[coromonadalix]

    seems to copy Gossen idea's  for the battery pack,    illuminated jacks  for the noob

for the touch function probe, was it Sencore who had this idea  loooooooog time ago ?  but seems to be some kind of a remote ?

the non existent  87-VII   will talk  and be linked to chatgpt      loll

[J-R]

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/fluke-87-vi-fc-prototype-product-from-fluke-marketing/

[floobydust]

"Unfortunately, this product is not yet available. Your interest helps our researchers design a better product. We appreciate your participation in this experiment and we would love to hear any additional thoughts you may have about this prototype product."

I think Fortive is basically fishing for ideas, for innovation. As if you can turn on and off product development to appease shareholders.

When I looked at it, it's huge quite long and I complained the UI sucks with compass nav buttons not laid out that way, big ass SETUP button gonna get hit by accident, most of the LCD wasted by tiny font. Battery life would be a concern with the 3AA alkaline "250 hours" or Li Ion pack when logging. No idea how much memory it has. 3 year warranty. Meh.
It mostly seems like a wireless upgrade for the 87.

[EEVblog]

"Unfortunately, this product is not yet available. Your interest helps our researchers design a better product. We appreciate your participation in this experiment and we would love to hear any additional thoughts you may have about this prototype product."
I think Fortive is basically fishing for ideas, for innovation. As if you can turn on and off product development to appease shareholders.

Wow, this sucks 
I've contacted the MD of Fluke Australia, will see what she says.

[EEVblog]

Couldn't resist:

[SWB]

I received an email with a slightly different link: https://dreamproducts.fluke.com/

The page is nearly identical, but there are slight differences in a couple of the images (especially the main front view). (If you bring the two pages up in different tabs and flip back and forth between them, the few differences that exist are more obvious.)

Edit: Ah, I didn't catch this at first, but the difference between the two pages is that one of them has a removable protective holster, while the other has an integrated protective holster.

I've also been interviewed by Fluke R&D engineers a couple of times in the past few months regarding new product developments. Although I wasn't asked to sign an NDA, I won't reveal details of those conversations out of professional courtesy, but I will say that based on those conversations, many of the features shown here are not a surprise.

[EEVblog]

Interesting.

[wolfy007]

Perhaps they dont want a repeat of the Fluke 87-IV release, so do a marketing survey to see customer reaction.

[coromonadalix]

how many counts ?   since we see 220.45 ...  30k counts, more  ?

[skander36]

I think this is kind of an elusive campaign ...
Few month ago I received an email about Fluke 290 (a 289 with color LCD).
The link is no longer available.

 

[JPortici]

why does this looks like an april fools?

[LazyJack]

I also got Fluke's mail. It is quite straight about that the product is coming. So I do think we'll have an 87VI. However, that questionnaire is a bit annoying. Why don't they say in the mail, that it is coming and we are asking for your feedback.
Anyway, I'll respond and see what happens.

[Fungus]

Imagine if they'd put a LED for continuity test indication on that little dongle.

[skander36]

why does this looks like an april fools?

Because they are not sent in April? 
The mail to web translation (Click here if you cannot read this email) is from an app subdomain app.fluke.com:
https://app.fluke.com/e/es?s=1182545284&e=825233&elqTrackId=CB8A75AB629045FDDEED13AC606EAB67&elq=0aba7068eb224954918a15080ff660a2&elqaid=33201&elqat=1

[linux-works]

ok, I HAVE TO STEAL THIS IDEA.

I already have a dmm interface for my set of meters (arduino/esp based of course) - and having a remote capture/freeze function on the probe reminds me of the ancient set of flukes from the 70's that had a special button on their touch probe.

all I need is a remote pulse.  it can be low tech rf (like 400mhz) or whatever, but the key is: small size.  and reasonable battery life.

what off-the-shelf chips or circuits should I look at (or even modules that are tiny and can be integrated)?

this just looks too useful to not have.  and a generic wireless 'remote' with 1 or 2 buttons that adapts to regular probes (slips over) would be so cool to actually USE.

BLE would also work and that might be more standard to get an rx on the pc/host side.  but I want a small and thin circuit so that's the challenge.

any ideas for a diyer?

[linux-works]

>for the touch function probe, was it Sencore who had this idea  loooooooog time ago ?  but seems to be some kind of a remote ?


I have one of those (broken) that went with the 1970's era fluke bench dmms (only a few models).

clunky jack and the probe was fragile.

but the idea was really good and I'd like to see this return, with rf (maybe even IR?  leverage standard tv IR remote chips).

[EEVblog]

how many counts ?   since we see 220.45 ...  30k counts, more  ?

Still has the HiRes mode button, so it's x,xxx on boot.

[Wrenches of Death]

I think Fortive is basically fishing for ideas, for innovation. As if you can turn on and off product development to appease shareholders.

Bingo!

WoD

[BeBuLamar]

Since Tek and Keithley are no longer part of Fortive so they will compete against Fluke so Fluke has to prepare to come up with something new.

[Bloch]

as i google the Fluke 87-VI Multimeter I found a Fluke 87-V Max Multimeter

Is that also fake ? or is a bigger display ?

[coromonadalix]

the Fluke 87-V Max  is an official model,  more directed at industrial applications


https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=LuUFF6zDBg0

[floobydust]

What comes first - the requirements or the mockup or the survey?    Most of us here know how to do product development.

It seems to be a fictional mockup 87-VI but who knows.
Just a backwards approach but I'd expect no less from a mega-conglomerate that rarely does engineering.

I guess we're all in love with not only the brand name, but the model number too.
I say the real 87's are EOL due to the LTC custom multimeter IC's long gone and ADI killing off the Milpitas fab. Losing custom silicon advantage.

"Designed and built in USA" - Fortive we believe you care about America and not profit for Wall Street.
"$650" price? 87-V is USD $522, 87V-MAX $589, 289 $875. (not the kit price).
This is kind of a BOAT. With holster: 87V MAX is 8.5" tall, 87V is  7.9" tall... 87VI pic is around 8.5" and med 2" thick. Needs to go on a diet. 289 is 8.75" tall with 1/4 VGA LCD.

[Everett_Tom]

It does seem like Fortive can't quite tell what to do with product design and naming. It felt that the older Fluke products were built by people who actually knew what their users do day to day rather than sneaky startup-style fake product adverts.

It also looks like the new Fluke 283 ( the Solar DMM) doesn't have 80 series Specs but 70 series specs, like the Fluke 3000 and the Fluke 279. This seems like a clever trick for an upsell without delivering on the implied promise —sneaky. Or maybe the person doing the naming doesn't understand what an 8 in the name implies to users. Either way, it's not a great sign.

Looking at the Careers page on https://fortive.eightfold.ai/careers/, it seems that many of the Fluke jobs are now in Poland. So, they were probably not created by the same teams that created previous DMMs.

[coromonadalix]

the 287 289  are outdated  bulky  and sloow,  nothing so far  from Fluke will replace them,   why extending the 8 series

when i have tried the 87-v  series    Fluke become dead for me ...