New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th

[Fungus]

If you're gonna argue that there's no advantage at all to at least a few physical knobs then you are veering into USB scope territory.  Paging Mr. Wolf....

I never said that, I just said you have a lack of imagination about what touchscreens can really do of you give them a chance.

Want a physical knob? How about the one Microsoft put in their Surface Studio?

(in the middle of this video somewhere):

[snoopy]

Only a few more hours to go !! 

[David Hess]

I never said that, I just said you have a lack of imagination about what touchscreens can really do of you give them a chance.

Want a physical knob? How about the one Microsoft put in their Surface Studio?

Along with transparency, most animation, and low contrast, skeuomorphic interface elements like knobs represent everything which is soulless and wrong in graphical user interfaces.

[ebastler]

Want a physical knob? How about the one Microsoft put in their Surface Studio?

Along with transparency, most animation, and low contrast, skeuomorphic interface elements like knobs represent everything which is soulless and wrong in graphical user interfaces.

Why would a physical knob (as present on the Surface Studio), which serves the function of a physical knob, be deemed skeuomorphic? 

[David Hess]

Why would a physical knob (as present on the Surface Studio), which serves the function of a physical knob, be deemed skeuomorphic? 

Is it an actual physical interface?  I must be thinking of a different product.

[timb]

Why would a physical knob (as present on the Surface Studio), which serves the function of a physical knob, be deemed skeuomorphic? 

Is it an actual physical interface?  I must be thinking of a different product.

Yes, it's even in the thumbnail for the video. (Hint: To the left of the keyboard.)

It's basically a rotary encoder attached to a chunk of aluminum with a capacitive elephant on the bottom, so the screen can sense where it's being placed.

Griffin actually makes a similar, standalone (non-touch screen) product that works with any Mac or PC. They come in wired and wireless versions. Basically a machined block of aluminum with a clear rubberized base (which houses LEDs for user feedback). They have a full API available for third party developers to integrate it into their software. It's pretty neat, actually. (I bought one back in 2003 or so when they originally came out with them. Was nice for scrubbing video and scrolling long documents.)

[Fungus]

Why would a physical knob (as present on the Surface Studio), which serves the function of a physical knob, be deemed skeuomorphic? 

Is it an actual physical interface?  I must be thinking of a different product.

Yes, it's a physical knob that you can place anywhere on the screen and turn to control things.

Microsoft's knob is a bit big for an oscilloscope, but... 

[BrianH_Tektronix]

Here's my illustration for what the new scope will look like:

Tek's response -->  Love it 

[serggio]

Here's my illustration for what the new scope will look like:

Tek's response -->  Love it 

Trigger limited CH1 and CH2 only.. In your new scope too? 

[David Hess]

Trigger limited CH1 and CH2 only.. In your new scope too? 

Having the trigger source limited to one or a limited number of input channels (1) is actually a pretty common limitation in very old or specialized oscilloscopes.  Sometimes there is no room to implement a full channel switch for the trigger path and sometimes it is for performance reasons.

(1) Or even none!  Early oscilloscopes just had a vertical trigger source from after the vertical channel switch in place of all of the input channels which is where the "VERT" trigger source came from even though later it did not work in the same way.  You can see this even in the last analog oscilloscopes which Tektronix made.

[BrianH_Tektronix]

Here's my illustration for what the new scope will look like:

Tek's response -->  Love it 

Trigger limited CH1 and CH2 only.. In your new scope too? 

Nope, there will not be such limitations in triggering. All mainstream scopes on the market today have A/B sequencing trigger modes that can be any channel you select. In fact on today's Tektronix windows scope you can do A trigger--> B trigger --> visual trigger, allowing for many many trigger combinations. The same type of sequencing option will be true on this new scope.   

[timb]

Here's my illustration for what the new scope will look like:

Tek's response -->  Love it 

If you guys want to send me one of the new scopes I'd be happy to do a more accurate illustration!

Here's my illustration for what the new scope will look like:

Tek's response -->  Love it 

Trigger limited CH1 and CH2 only.. In your new scope too? 

Darn, I forgot to extend the selector switch for the trigger source! If I have time tonight I'll fix that.

(That 8 channel drawing is based off this illustration I did for a "Virtual Oscilloscope" web thing I'm working on, which will allow you to upload waveform data in CSV, WAV or RAW format and generate classic CRO looking images.)

[PA0PBZ]

Darn, I forgot to extend the selector switch for the trigger source! If I have time tonight I'll fix that.

Nothing wrong with a T and external triggering input

[BU508A]

Only a few more hours to go !! 

Patience, my little Padawan, patience ...

 

[j_hallows]

Looks like photos are coming out now.

[timb]

Looks like photos are coming out now.

Damn! That kind gives me a bit of a chubby...

[tautech]

Looks like photos are coming out now.

8 channels gives new meaning to a benchtop ratsnest. 

[BrianH_Tektronix]

Looks like photos are coming out now.

Gotta Love it!   

[GreyWoolfe]

Looks like photos are coming out now.

Damn! That kind gives me a bit of a chubby...

Don't get TOO excited now or you will have premature waveform generation!

[ci11]

Feast yourselves.....there are more being uploaded on the same channel as we speak.....including one from w2aew!

https://youtu.be/JDKtllS-Lw0

https://youtu.be/3jd8Iq8YVzM

[BrianH_Tektronix]

Feast yourselves.....there are more being uploaded on the same channel as we speak.....including one from w2aew!

https://youtu.be/JDKtllS-Lw0

https://youtu.be/3jd8Iq8YVzM

I guess the world knows now
  

[mikeselectricstuff]

So to remove a waveform, you have to drag it to the bin, not just double-press like on pretty much any other scope? 
"first scope designed from the ground up for touch interaction" I think R&S and Micsig  may have something to say about that...

[nctnico]

I guess the world knows now

Prices?

[tautech]

I guess the world knows now
  

About time, been the 6th for 10 hrs here. 

[mikeselectricstuff]

"Optional Windows to run PC Software on the scope"... What could possibly go wrong