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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #175 on: May 31, 2017, 12:52:57 pm »
Well the way that people bag the MDO's here whilst completely ignoring the spectrum analyser feature as an added benefit, perhaps they don't want a repeat of that by the Tek bashers before the scope has even had a chance to get off the ground  !!

Sheath pride and bare honor.  Actually, I can understand Tektronix having a problem doing that since Danaher bought them.
 

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #176 on: May 31, 2017, 04:12:59 pm »
https://www.eximpulse.com/export-product-oscilloscope.htm
Search for MSO58

US$4,460 declared value for the 1GHz MSO58

That wouldn't be retail though of course, and I'm not sure if this is legit or not because it dates from the 8th Nov 2016 from India to Portland. So, meh.


IMO, there's no way Tek would price an 8 channel 1 GHz oscilloscope at $4,460. That's likely closer to their internal cost, and the India -> Portland to me implies a QA/developer unit coming home.
 

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #177 on: May 31, 2017, 05:39:56 pm »
Looks like a pretty interesting scope!  Congrats to Tektronix (BrianH, W2aew, et al) on your soon to be introduction  :-+

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #178 on: May 31, 2017, 06:16:16 pm »
Models MSO54, MSO56, and MSO58. Strange move to two digit model numbers if that's correct.

"It's a new paradigm!"  :P
Or whatever the marketing babble of the day is.
I'm sure they have thought about that naming scheme long and hard...  ;)
 

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #179 on: June 01, 2017, 01:27:54 am »
Only 5 days to go  :box:
 

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #180 on: June 01, 2017, 01:31:18 am »
They probably designed in a little windshield wiper system to remove your grimy fingerprints from the screen.  :P
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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #182 on: June 01, 2017, 01:49:38 am »
"It's a new paradigm!"  :P
Or whatever the marketing babble of the day is.
I'm sure they have thought about that naming scheme long and hard...  ;)

I think we are still on "courageous".
 

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #183 on: June 01, 2017, 01:52:20 am »
IMO, there's no way Tek would price an 8 channel 1 GHz oscilloscope at $4,460. That's likely closer to their internal cost, and the India -> Portland to me implies a QA/developer unit coming home.

No way they could even price the 4 channel version at that.
Yes, it would be basic cost price import declaration.
 


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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #185 on: June 03, 2017, 02:04:05 am »
Only 3 days to go  :box:
 
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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #188 on: June 03, 2017, 05:10:17 am »
They wanted freelancers to do the banners / some graphic design:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xoJgatzbp08J:https://www.upwork.com/jobs/Web-banners-required-Preference-given-for-urgent-delivery_~018634fc2758075685%3Fsource%3Drss+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk

Some branding person at Tek really loves their job!

http://www.eevblog.com/files/TekBrandGuidelines.pdf

I read through that last night, really great and consistent job from the branding team.

I thought it was a pretty interesting look into how branding at that scale happens.
 

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #189 on: June 03, 2017, 05:20:11 am »
Man oh man, I am glad I don't have to dwell in the corporate world:

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empowering customers to analyze
performance more accurately, rapidly
and effortlessly. We advance technology–
in cadence with our customers–to
resolve complexity and accelerate the
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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #190 on: June 03, 2017, 07:04:33 am »
Webinar:
http://info.tek.com/as-preview-the-oscilloscope-of-the-new-era-webinar-v2.html

side note, i clicked on that and it's STILL being populated with mike's data. COME ON.
 

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #191 on: June 03, 2017, 08:01:32 am »
They wanted freelancers to do the banners / some graphic design:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xoJgatzbp08J:https://www.upwork.com/jobs/Web-banners-required-Preference-given-for-urgent-delivery_~018634fc2758075685%3Fsource%3Drss+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk

Some branding person at Tek really loves their job!

http://www.eevblog.com/files/TekBrandGuidelines.pdf
They probably paid a fortune to a branding company for that.
Someone should tell them their customers are engineers who don't give a toss about that crap. We'd much rather the money was spent on product improvements.
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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #192 on: June 03, 2017, 08:27:10 am »
They wanted freelancers to do the banners / some graphic design:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xoJgatzbp08J:https://www.upwork.com/jobs/Web-banners-required-Preference-given-for-urgent-delivery_~018634fc2758075685%3Fsource%3Drss+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk

Some branding person at Tek really loves their job!

http://www.eevblog.com/files/TekBrandGuidelines.pdf
They probably paid a fortune to a branding company for that.
Someone should tell them their customers are engineers who don't give a toss about that crap. We'd much rather the money was spent on product improvements.

The same shit happend in the company where I work. A group of bored and overpaid marketing idiots has made a lot of bullshit-bingo documents and rebranding trainings for the employees. That costs the company a lot of money for nothing, but he Management seems to like it. Everywhere in the world the same kind of idiots are making the same kind of marketing bullshit in many different companies. There seem to exist a clone factory somewhere in the world where they are produced.
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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #193 on: June 03, 2017, 08:35:02 am »

http://www.eevblog.com/files/TekBrandGuidelines.pdf

They probably paid a fortune to a branding company for that.
Someone should tell them their customers are engineers who don't give a toss about that crap. We'd much rather the money was spent on product improvements.

+1
This is a very interesting brochure and explanation of the future of Tektronix.
The engineering mindset is not even mentioned or addressed once in this 68 page pamphlet.
 
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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #194 on: June 03, 2017, 08:43:18 am »
Yes but - it's not the engineers who sign the cheques: that's the suits. The branding is aimed at them. Branding is part of marketing, which is directed to people who are currently not your customers.
 

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #195 on: June 03, 2017, 08:48:39 am »
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The engineering mindset is not even mentioned or addressed once in this 68 page pamphlet.
It is mentioned and despised, we work in "complex environments" that don't make great photos,  :--
 

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #196 on: June 03, 2017, 09:39:08 am »
 

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #197 on: June 03, 2017, 10:01:13 am »
On the branding: As much as engineers like to say "Engineers don't give a toss about branding", I really think we do. We are less susceptible to it because we (like scientists and researchers) are trained to look at facts, but we are still human. All of use will give pretty things a little bit of a positive bias, things that aren't will get a negative bias. Part of the reason why peope see vendors like Analog Devices, Linear tech, or T&M brands like R&S, Tek, HP etc as "reliable" is because they have nice, organized websites, datasheets, ... It's consistent, you know how it looks, it feels "well designed". It's one of these things we don't notice when it's done well, but we will find blatently obvoius when it's not. (ofcourse, the main reason why we like them is because they simply are well built and well engineerd devices. Just stating that if they didn't have that marketing, it would take more effort to get there.

There is also the fact that social scientists and behavioural analysis people will be able to write entire books about how the look of something influences our mindset. If you have nice "light" documentation, with softer colors, it will make you feel more relaxed when looking at it. By being hapier, you will automaticly be more positive towards the data inside.

Then there is also the fact that the marketing material gives an image about the company. If the material is neat and tidy, consistent, it gives a good image: They seem to have attention for details, they are organized, ...
Let's face it, who here hasn't gotten a datasheet from a company that looked very poorly done and gone "hmm, can I really trust this brand? This documentation looks quite crusty..." Even though it might have been the best built, highest performance part on the planet!

Oh, and as others have said, that stuff also matters a lot towards the investors...

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #198 on: June 03, 2017, 10:11:04 am »

There is also the fact that social scientists and behavioural analysis people will be able to write entire books about how the look of something influences our mindset.

Well, this "Mixed Signal Generator" has already influenced my mindset.

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Re: New 2GHz touchscreen scope from Tek, June 6th
« Reply #199 on: June 03, 2017, 10:43:16 am »
Webinar:
http://info.tek.com/as-preview-the-oscilloscope-of-the-new-era-webinar-v2.html

side note, i clicked on that and it's STILL being populated with mike's data. COME ON.

Empty for me. Maybe your browser has remembered things?

Of course, it was just cookies. Still i didn't like it in the first place, that the link itself would have all your personal info in case you wanted to share it (as in mike's first post)
 


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