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Offline xstarlogicTopic starter

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Digital Multi-Meter to measure pulse of a flowmeter
« on: September 06, 2024, 05:30:21 pm »
Hello all,

I need to measure the frequency emitted by the flowmeter. The flowmeter transmits data  0 to 12kHz with an amplitude of 17 DC Volt.

I have been looking into some digital multi-meter reviews. Most do not have a review regarding on frequency reading. If some frequency reading is included in the review, all use sinusoidal waveform of AC power source.

I do not want to use an oscilloscope, which will be more expensive. For safety reason, I wanted to carry less stuff climbing to 10 meter or above. and most instrument are using 4-20 DCmA, so it will be troublesome to carry lots of things while climbing up.

I've been looking at some low budget multi-meter brand available in my country, such as ANENG and ZOYI. Brymen is not available, UNI-T is available but most are expensive. Fluke is not my best choice. I am currently looking at ZOYI-102L but have no idea will the frequency work for 17 DCV.

I am newbie to electrical frequency, please provide me with basic explanation.

Many thanks to all
 

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Re: Digital Multi-Meter to measure pulse of a flowmeter
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2024, 05:38:45 pm »
Check my reviews, I do test the frequency input on DMM's:

Generally meters is not designed for sinus waveforms, but for square wave. If the amplitude of the sinus is large enough it will be counted.
 

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Re: Digital Multi-Meter to measure pulse of a flowmeter
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2024, 05:44:56 pm »
If you want to count the actual number of pulses, you have a problem. Very few meters can do that, I only know of some Gossen, but they are very expensive.
 

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Re: Digital Multi-Meter to measure pulse of a flowmeter
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2024, 05:50:06 pm »
Is the FNIRSI SG003 / SG004 in your budget range? These are low-cost process calibrators, so their main functionality is generating signals. But they also have a quite good input side with frequency and PWM display.

They also allow you to choose between logic signal or open collector detection - that´s a feature I´ve never seen at any DMM or frequency counter.

And they´re small - perfect for field use.
 

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Re: Digital Multi-Meter to measure pulse of a flowmeter
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2024, 04:07:06 pm »
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Check my reviews, I do test the frequency input on DMM's:

Generally meters is not designed for sinus waveforms, but for square wave. If the amplitude of the sinus is large enough it will be counted.

Where to see your review? I'm still new around here, and may get lost very easy.

I think pulse produced by flowmeter is a square waveform as they are intercepted by DI module of PLC.

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Is the FNIRSI SG003 / SG004 in your budget range? These are low-cost process calibrators, so their main functionality is generating signals. But they also have a quite good input side with frequency and PWM display.

They also allow you to choose between logic signal or open collector detection - that´s a feature I´ve never seen at any DMM or frequency counter.

And they´re small - perfect for field use.

No, I'm not looking for calibrator or generator. Please read my question carefully.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2024, 04:10:27 pm by xstarlogic »
 

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Re: Digital Multi-Meter to measure pulse of a flowmeter
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2024, 04:10:57 pm »
Where to see your review? I'm still new around here, and may get lost very easy.

Click on the globe under my name will bring you close.
A more direct link: https://lygte-info.dk/info/indexDMMReviews%20UK.html
 

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Re: Digital Multi-Meter to measure pulse of a flowmeter
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2024, 05:15:53 pm »

No, I'm not looking for calibrator or generator. Please read my question carefully.
Please read my answer carefully. The SG03/04 have a meter and a generator function. And the meter is capable of measuring frequencies, counting pulses and measuring PWM.
 

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Re: Digital Multi-Meter to measure pulse of a flowmeter
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2024, 06:31:20 pm »
I don't know I would assume all DMM with frequency measurement function can do that. I have used the following DMM to measure frequency Fluke 87V, 189, 287, 289, 45 and all can measure pulses. Although the kind of pulses I have are either 5V or 12V or 24V (not 17V but I don't think 17V would make a difference). And yes they are all square wave pulses.
 

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Re: Digital Multi-Meter to measure pulse of a flowmeter
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2024, 09:01:21 pm »
I don't know I would assume all DMM with frequency measurement function can do that. I have used the following DMM to measure frequency Fluke 87V, 189, 287, 289, 45 and all can measure pulses. Although the kind of pulses I have are either 5V or 12V or 24V (not 17V but I don't think 17V would make a difference). And yes they are all square wave pulses.

There are differences in how they trig, some requires a zero crossing, some do not.
 

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Re: Digital Multi-Meter to measure pulse of a flowmeter
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2024, 09:34:29 pm »

No, I'm not looking for calibrator or generator. Please read my question carefully.
The SG03/04 have a meter and a generator function. And the meter is capable of measuring frequencies, counting pulses and measuring PWM.

They are quite versatile, though only the SG004A got the frequency reading (in/out) just as MR9270S, while SG003A only got (out).
Flow meter example from +9.10min


 
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Re: Digital Multi-Meter to measure pulse of a flowmeter
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2024, 12:02:54 am »
I don't know I would assume all DMM with frequency measurement function can do that. I have used the following DMM to measure frequency Fluke 87V, 189, 287, 289, 45 and all can measure pulses. Although the kind of pulses I have are either 5V or 12V or 24V (not 17V but I don't think 17V would make a difference). And yes they are all square wave pulses.

There are differences in how they trig, some requires a zero crossing, some do not.

All of the signals I mentioned are not zero crossing. They are 0 to 5, 12 or 24V pulses.
 


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