Magnova oscilloscope

[Martin72]

It doesn't look bad, it really doesn't look bad.

[pmcouto]

I absolutely do not need a new scope!
I do not need a new scope.
Magnova seem to have some nice features and an innovative UI...
Maybe I need a new scope after all...

Want to see more!

Almost ready to pull the trigger... 

[KungFuJosh]

That scope looks great. The X-Y mode and streaming FPS capabilities also look fantastic.

[core]

We certainly look forward to seeing it as soon as possible.

On the other hand, it's better to launch it when everything works according to the initial plan and without last-minute compromises.
It's not easy to launch such a complex machine.

Likewise, I already have oscilloscopes to work with. I'm in no hurry.

It's great that every now and then we get an update. Thanks !

[Martin72]

I find the housing made entirely of metal very valuable.
In general, the Scope looks better in the video than in the photos beforehand.
And the thing with the FFT of the sweep is visually well done, I'm going to do that on my scope tomorrow.

[LoneWolf6912]

Just placed my order today! I'll share some photos here as soon as it arrives. 

[Sorama]

 

Did you get a delivery date?

[LoneWolf6912]

The website mentioned a dispatch date between September 4th and 18th. However, I'm not sure how reliable this information is, given that we don't know how much backlog they've accumulated on their projects.

[Martin72]

The delivery date has already been postponed a few times.
I think it's more important that if you're interested, you pre-order it now because of the 30% discount.
I was already thinking about doing it, because the device just makes me curious and I think it's not the worst thing to have one with a lower bandwidth in addition to a 1Ghz scope.
But at the moment I'm collecting money for another measuring device.

[nctnico]

I have a strong feeling the introduction discount will be followed by another discount That is a quite common thing to happen once a manufacturer opens Pandora's discount box because people wait until the next discount before buying.

Edit: typo

[Martin72]

It seems to be getting serious, the delivery time has been reduced to 5-10 days.

[tggzzz]

I have a strong feeling the introduction discount will be followed by another discount That is a quite common thing to happen once a manufacturer opens Pandora's discount box because people wait until the next discount before buying.

That's a variant of the Osborne Effect. Oh, I remember it well!

[woody]

The tension is mounting. 1-4 days in stock  https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Batronix-Magnova-BMO350.html

[LoneWolf6912]

I guess time is relative. 

[woody]

Yep. I read the other day that we now have a Thorium clock to prove that better.

On the Magnova, things seem to be moving, unfortunately they will miss my birthday by a least a week 

[RAPo]

Well, Batronix should start a trade-in program: I have several CRO's and throw in a MICSIG for a 100Mhz+sig gen, if they would do that ;-)

[joehedrick]

These look REALLY sharp and that massive screen integrated in might be exactly what I'm after.

I've been in the market for a reasonably affordable DSO / MSO with a very large screen for a long time. I'm visually impaired so, if anyone gets ahold of one, I'd love to hear about the font sizing / sizing options in the UI in particular.

I'd basically just resigned myself to one of the Rigol DHO900's with an external screen since I'm pretty sure I can force Android to make it whatever font size I like but I would definitely love this all wrapped up in a nice package with all those features.

[CosteC]

I would not buy Magnova for screen only - this can be fixed by Rigol DHO800/900 with external screen. Android allows also some level of hacking-for-everybody:) and  there are screens with touchscreen too. Magnova promises far more, yet is unable to deliver anything more than pictures and marketing blah-blah. )



Anyway, I am more and more convinced Magnova will not deliver anything worth real attention. Not with Rigol, Signent, LeCroy and KeySight really delivering quality scopes at various levels of awesomeness and price levels.

[ebastler]

Anyway, I am more and more convinced Magnova will not deliver anything worth real attention.

That's a bold conclusion, given that neither you nor anyone else has had the opportunity to test-drive the Magnova and publish their observations. It is also a statement which generalizes your own preferences -- you may not want to pay this scope much attention, but how do you claim to know what other people value?

So I'm afraid you post does not deliver anything worth real attention. 

[2N3055]

I would not buy Magnova for screen only - this can be fixed by Rigol DHO800/900 with external screen. Android allows also some level of hacking-for-everybody:) and  there are screens with touchscreen too. Magnova promises far more, yet is unable to deliver anything more than pictures and marketing blah-blah. )



Anyway, I am more and more convinced Magnova will not deliver anything worth real attention. Not with Rigol, Signent, LeCroy and KeySight really delivering quality scopes at various levels of awesomeness and price levels.

Well, last two generations of Rigol is definitely NOT what I would call "quality" scopes and certainly nothing to use as a benchmark.
They are adequate for the price, and certainly not cheap crap. But numerous bugs that never gets fixed, downright badly engineered scopes (like DHO900) etc etc..
And that is proven fact in plain sight.

OTOH Magnova is not released yet. It's only fair to pass the judgment until device is available for testing.
Then we will see, both good and bad.

[CosteC]

Anyway, I am more and more convinced Magnova will not deliver anything worth real attention.

That's a bold conclusion, given that neither you nor anyone else has had the opportunity to test-drive the Magnova and publish their observations. It is also a statement which generalizes your own preferences -- you may not want to pay this scope much attention, but how do you claim to know what other people value?

So I'm afraid you post does not deliver anything worth real attention. 

Well, I am not paying much attention to fanboys of fantasy oscilloscopes, existing mainly in for of leaflets and marketing advertisements. FNIRSI is shitty but still more useful than something which cannot be purchased.
So, true - I am biased towards existing equipment. By existing I am not meaning something seen here or there as demo. If it was not test driven by a-bit-at-least-independent testers it does not have any value for me.
So far we got nice marketing, great graphics, some demo and broken promises.

[nctnico]

Anyway, I am more and more convinced Magnova will not deliver anything worth real attention.

That's a bold conclusion, given that neither you nor anyone else has had the opportunity to test-drive the Magnova and publish their observations. It is also a statement which generalizes your own preferences -- you may not want to pay this scope much attention, but how do you claim to know what other people value?

So I'm afraid you post does not deliver anything worth real attention. 

Well, I am not paying much attention to fanboys of fantasy oscilloscopes, existing mainly in for of leaflets and marketing advertisements. FNIRSI is shitty but still more useful than something which cannot be purchased.
So, true - I am biased towards existing equipment. By existing I am not meaning something seen here or there as demo. If it was not test driven by a-bit-at-least-independent testers it does not have any value for me.
So far we got nice marketing, great graphics, some demo and broken promises.

I really don't get what you are complaining about. It is very common for products to take longer to get shipped than what management expected. Sometimes getting a product through certification can add months of delays.

In the end you don't have to buy it. If you need an oscilloscope right now, there are plenty of options. If you can wait, then the Magnova is just another option to consider once it gets released. Personally I'd prefer a manufacturer to release a complete product instead of something half baked. The latter seems to be the usual MO nowadays so you are better off waiting a year after release for the firmware to include all the features. All in all it comes down to the same delay.

[Martin72]

Broken promises?
What did they promise you that has been broken?
Did you order a Magnova?
Delays in release/delivery are not uncommon these days.
There are manufacturers who throw their devices half-finished on the market to be the first and then leave the buyers with the mess.
Apparently Batronix doesn't want to be one of them and that's commendable.

I would not buy Magnova for screen only - this can be fixed by Rigol DHO800/900 with external screen.

Combining a DHO900 with a larger screen does not make it a better scope.
To compare the upcoming scope, you have to reach a few shelves higher.

[KungFuJosh]

Well, I am not paying much attention to fanboys of fantasy oscilloscopes, existing mainly in for of leaflets and marketing advertisements. FNIRSI is shitty but still more useful than something which cannot be purchased.
So, true - I am biased towards existing equipment. By existing I am not meaning something seen here or there as demo. If it was not test driven by a-bit-at-least-independent testers it does not have any value for me.
So far we got nice marketing, great graphics, some demo and broken promises.

Your perspective is awkwardly hostile and antisocial regarding this scope. I think the simple thing to do is not post your unsolicited opinion on the 'fantasy scope.' 🤷

Batronix is a company who many users on this forum have had great experiences with. We're allowed to be optimistic about their future product release. Even if I just recently got a new scope, and will likely never be able to afford this new scope. It doesn't matter. It's still exciting.

The demos look great, as do the datasheets we've seen so far. We're allowed to be excited about that too. When they finally release it, we'll see how the real world performance is, and either be impressed or disappointed. Most of us will wait before we start forming opinions.

[nctnico]

One thing to keep in mind is that as a test equipment distributor with many brands, Batronix is in a unique position to get feedback about a wide range of product from different brands an in different price classes. I think that is something to be excited about; it is very possible that a lot of this feedback & knowledge ended up in the Magnova oscilloscope making it a scope which could cover a wide range of needs / use cases.