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looking for fume extractor
« on: January 02, 2019, 07:38:49 am »
hi

i`m looking for fume extractor now
What configuration is best?


DIY ideas will be ok too  :D

 

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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2019, 09:30:51 am »
I'm just making a new one with a carbon filter. When I put him up, I'll take pictures
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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2019, 09:46:14 am »
how well do those carbon filters actually work?

Do they actually remove the flux gases or do they just remove the visible flux condensate?
 

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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2019, 12:22:48 pm »
Carbon filters remove more than 90% of the pollutants  :box:
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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2019, 01:03:04 pm »
I use a second hand grizzly benchtop air filter machine with a MERV 13 carbon filter i bought from amazon.  The plastic hood is handy for storing the irons inside, but can easily be moved for storage.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-Benchtop-Dual-Fan-Dust-Filter/G9955?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgOqRmJPP3wIVklmGCh1thAFAEAQYASABEgIEJ_D_BwE
Unless I'm really doing a lot of through hole components, it eliminates most of the smell.  Another benefit is the 2 power plugs located on the side for my irons.


 
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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2019, 01:16:30 pm »
small sample
exhaust flexible hose with 9Wchip LED lighting
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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2019, 01:31:00 pm »
Control
Left button - suction ON / OFF
Middle - rotation - suction power control, push - light
Right button - Soldering station ON / OFF (the soldering station has the main switch in the back)


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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2019, 01:46:07 pm »
small sample
exhaust flexible hose with 9Wchip LED lighting

Thanx!
How pump is looking?
 

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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2019, 01:53:21 pm »
Nice  :-DD


It is still up, hangs in the rail above the desk and not neccesary, moves away to one side - little space

old disassembled - new incomplete
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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2019, 02:02:01 pm »
It is best to exhaust outside the workplace, out of the room, unfortunately my workplace configuration does not allow it - because carbon filter
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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2019, 02:48:10 pm »
One quick photo, two-turbine aggregate without filter and cover, the supply is made by a cable chain
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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2019, 08:40:50 pm »
I made one using the 120mm fan assembly from an old Dell Optiplex computer.  I added a Hakko activated carbon filter to the input side and a fan safety grill to the output side.
Works surprisingly well!

 

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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2019, 08:43:54 pm »
The very best fume extractor is one that actually escorts the fumes outdoors and replaces them with fresh air. Something called a heat recovery ventilator works great but is expensive. You can make something similar with two identical fans one blowing in one out. Put into a window. With an adjustable hose that you place behind your work.

You don't need any filter, just two screens to keep the bugs out.
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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2019, 08:49:22 pm »
It depends on what they are. But generally, you would need very bulky and expensive filters and a very powerful fan on the device to continue to remove pollutants from air for as long as they advertise they do.

In some situations, inside of large office buildings where lots of people are soldering alongside one another, the windows cannot open and the ventilation fan returns (where the air that leaves the building is collected) are hard to get to, they may be the only solution. But if you have a window that can open nearby it makes more sense to forgo filtration completely and just blow the fume laden air outdoors as efficiently as possible, replacing it with fresh air. Thats the filter that never needs to be replaced.


Carbon filters remove more than 90% of the pollutants  :box:
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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2019, 10:50:08 pm »
. But if you have a window that can open nearby it makes more sense to forgo filtration completely and just blow the fume laden air outdoors as efficiently as possible, replacing it with fresh air. Thats the filter that never needs to be replaced.


Carbon filters remove more than 90% of the pollutants  :box:

It is best to exhaust outside the workplace, out of the room, unfortunately my workplace configuration does not allow it - because carbon filter

I wrote something else :-//
Sometimes it just can not :--
I can already see how excited the woman is that I put her in the bedroom over the bed with a regenerative unit with a three-stage filter and noise silencer - better than sex   :-DD
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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2019, 12:20:28 am »
I found an old Austin Air purifier Jr. that you can pick up from eBay for around $80. Now all I need to do is build a box on top of it and cut a hole in it for the pipe. I ordered a fume extractor from China for $100 that when I got it turned out to be homemade itself. using a computer cooling fan that the suction is not sufficient with. Now if I want a powerful extractor I got to make one using parts from the Austin Air Purifier and the eBay China-made rinky-dinky one (which looked good in pictures) that I overpaid for.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2019, 12:25:12 am by Vadim Bellous »
 
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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2019, 01:49:59 am »
For what use?  There's a huge difference between removing a bit of flux vapor or fumes vs protecting yourself when doing potentially dangerous chemical experiments...  For the former a simple Hakko activated carbon filter works just fine, at least for occasional use.  I run it for a few seconds prior to soldering to get some airflow going, and that takes care of it.  Even in a closed room it leaves nothing perceptible.  The main reason to have something more elaborate is so you don't need to have it take up valuable space on your work bench, or if you do so much soldering the filter needs constant replacement - or it's simply overwhelmed.  Just assembling prototypes I'm on the original filter still, after two years, but that's very light duty.
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Re: looking for fume extractor
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2019, 02:00:41 am »
small sample
exhaust flexible hose with 9Wchip LED lighting

Thanx!
How pump is looking?
Functional test, temporary rubber flange will be replaced by 3D printer flange (ABS) or made on duralumin lathe
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/mounting-a-bench-top-fume-extractor-under-the-bench/msg2103916/#new
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