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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #125 on: September 25, 2024, 06:00:25 pm »
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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #126 on: September 25, 2024, 06:02:35 pm »
It's missing a few things, like quad or dual display modes but all in all, very nice.

Well, if you have multiple scopes, you have multiple display mode. 😉
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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #127 on: September 25, 2024, 06:20:14 pm »
I plugged the crappy Arb into the scope and tried the Bode plot.  The scope controls the Arb so the poor encoder interface is a non-issue.   Even with a limited number of data points, it's very slow.  Still, pretty fun to play with. 

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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #128 on: September 25, 2024, 06:59:13 pm »
What models are you looking at?
 

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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #129 on: September 25, 2024, 07:44:19 pm »
3000 series.   Amazed how well that Arb played with the scope.   Also, just how user friendly everything is.   I am now taking the time to read the manual.   

I think for home use, I want that 7000. 

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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #130 on: September 25, 2024, 08:14:08 pm »
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3000 series.

A good choice... ;)

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I think for home use, I want that 7000.

This would give you the multi-window you know from Lecroy again.
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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #131 on: September 26, 2024, 09:27:58 am »
3000 series.   Amazed how well that Arb played with the scope.   Also, just how user friendly everything is.   I am now taking the time to read the manual.   

I think for home use, I want that 7000.
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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #132 on: September 26, 2024, 01:05:53 pm »
Really, I want the large screen of the 7000 and some of it's features but don't want to pay for the higher BW.  It's not fast enough to let me toss my old WM and it's overkill for replacing the WR.  The daily driver has been reliable after the board swap which alleviated the need to replace it in short order. 

Talking with LeCroy about the parts scope, it too had failed the same way and had been in for service.  LeCroy swapped the board.  It must have been a common problem.  Good to have mine working again as I really like that old scope.  But damn, that Siglent will eat it for lunch in 90% of the cases and brings a lot more to the table.  They are doing things with the firmware that I would normally have written custom software for.  It's very impressive. 

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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #133 on: September 26, 2024, 01:36:35 pm »
if you need a sds7000 for home use, what do you use for work ???
 
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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #134 on: September 26, 2024, 03:12:15 pm »
Really, I want the large screen of the 7000 and some of it's features but don't want to pay for the higher BW.  It's not fast enough to let me toss my old WM and it's overkill for replacing the WR.  The daily driver has been reliable after the board swap which alleviated the need to replace it in short order. 

From the thread title, I understand you've not intended to replace your WM anyway. Just out of curiosity: what speed (bandwidth, sample rate) would be fast enough?
 
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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #135 on: September 26, 2024, 03:17:52 pm »
Really, I want the large screen of the 7000 and some of it's features but don't want to pay for the higher BW.  It's not fast enough to let me toss my old WM and it's overkill for replacing the WR.  The daily driver has been reliable after the board swap which alleviated the need to replace it in short order. 

Talking with LeCroy about the parts scope, it too had failed the same way and had been in for service.  LeCroy swapped the board.  It must have been a common problem.  Good to have mine working again as I really like that old scope.  But damn, that Siglent will eat it for lunch in 90% of the cases and brings a lot more to the table.  They are doing things with the firmware that I would normally have written custom software for.  It's very impressive.
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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #136 on: September 26, 2024, 05:35:36 pm »
Really, I want the large screen of the 7000 and some of it's features but don't want to pay for the higher BW.  It's not fast enough to let me toss my old WM and it's overkill for replacing the WR.  The daily driver has been reliable after the board swap which alleviated the need to replace it in short order. 

From the thread title, I understand you've not intended to replace your WM anyway. Just out of curiosity: what speed (bandwidth, sample rate) would be fast enough?

Correct, I plan to keep the WM. 

From the very first post that outlined my requirements and wants:

Analog Bandwidth @ 50ohms   300     500                      MHz
Single shot sample rate
All channels active         2G      5G                       sps
Half channels                       10G

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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #137 on: September 26, 2024, 07:43:31 pm »
From the very first post that outlined my requirements and wants:
In actual fact I've asked for the speed of your WM - and at the same time tried to make clear that it is just out of curiosity and I'm aware that you don't plan to replace it...

Analog Bandwidth @ 50ohms   300     500                      MHz
Single shot sample rate
All channels active         2G      5G                       sps
Half channels                       10G
With regard to this, I don't think you will easily find a 5-times oversamplong in modern DSOs anymore. A 500 MHz DSO with 10 GSa/s half channel sample rate would have to be a massively artificially bandwidth limited version of an upper midrange instrument, where the top model still has the usual 1.5-times oversampling, i.e. 2 GHz bandwidth.
 

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Re: Looking for a replacement general purpose oscilloscope for home use
« Reply #138 on: September 26, 2024, 08:18:17 pm »
In actual fact I've asked for the speed of your WM - and at the same time tried to make clear that it is just out of curiosity and I'm aware that you don't plan to replace it...

The WM8500A is 5GHz BW, 20Gs.  It's close to 20 years old now, but the manuals and datasheets are still available on-line if you would like more details.     


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