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Offline AleksTopic starter

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Hey all,

When dealing with batteries/cells, quite often one needs to measure the delivered charge (Ah) or energy (Wh) when charging them. Does anyone know of a power supply that has this feature built in? Ideally you press a button "measure Ah/Wh" and it starts measuring on its own.

I know that this can be implemented with most digitally-controlled power supplies via communication, but I'm looking for something stand-alone, not to be required to drag my laptop every time I want to make a measurement like this  :)

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When dealing with batteries/cells, quite often one needs to measure the delivered charge (Ah) or energy (Wh) when charging them. Does anyone know of a power supply that has this feature built in? Ideally you press a button "measure Ah/Wh" and it starts measuring on its own.

I know that this can be implemented with most digitally-controlled power supplies via communication, but I'm looking for something stand-alone, not to be required to drag my laptop every time I want to make a measurement like this  :)

If you need it for for private hobby projects: The RIDEN RD supplies provide a couple of charging related features and have an Ah / Wh counter. But personally I wouldn't use it for professional purposes.
 

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Offline AleksTopic starter

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Thank you both for the replies!

I'm mostly considering such a thing for a professional environment, so the RIDEN RD supplies can be used, but to a limited capacity... So not for anything that requires high confidence in the measurements. This would most certainly limit their use cases..

I took a look at Keysight's communication DC sources, thanks to pointing them out xmo! I now see that I forgot to mention the basic specs that I have in mind, which are 30V/10A for the power supply. So we something in the 300W+ range. The communication DC sources are still usable, albeit the tests would require longer time.
 

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The simplest solution, if that works for you, is to use USB power meters (for example, https://www.ebay.com/itm/154364896996 Most of these measure Wh/Ah and perform in 3-30V range. Mains power meters exist as well.
Other option would be to use more advanced charger with Wh/Ah display (look in RC hobby community for chargers) as you mentioned battery charging as a main goal.
 

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The R&S HMC8043 will do Wh/ mWh on all channels. 1mWh resolution
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Is a standalone powermeter not more versatile. You then can use every PSU you like and they often can log too
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If you have an electronic DC load that has a battery discharge feature, you can set it for maximum current and connect it in series between your battery and charging supply.  It will keep track of the Ah (but not Wh).

It's two boxes, so it's not quite stand-alone, but it doesn't need a laptop.
 

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If you have an electronic DC load that has a battery discharge feature, you can set it for maximum current and connect it in series between your battery and charging supply.  It will keep track of the Ah (but not Wh).
Rigol DL3000 in battery app mode tracks both Ah and Wh. With sense wires it could work and be accurate.
 

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A cheap solution can be a panel meter that can do that: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002065570217.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.14c63b8ch3vb7b&algo_pvid=148733e2-c959-4839-8e9d-7cb6bc84dc20&algo_exp_id=148733e2-c959-4839-8e9d-7cb6bc84dc20-2 .

Precision is not great, and also there is a drop on the shunt (can be compensated with remote sensing). But hey, it's cheap :)
 


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