Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters

[bson]

I certainly have no need for the GPB option (I never want to use GPIB again...).

I don't think this a 'real' option... unless they've changed something the 34465A and 34470A both come with internal GPIB whether you want it or not.

[JonM]

I certainly have no need for the GPB option (I never want to use GPIB again...).

I don't think this a 'real' option... unless they've changed something the 34465A and 34470A both come with internal GPIB whether you want it or not.

No, happily, GPIB is an option for the 34465A & 34470A:

34465A-GPB   GPIB interface module for Truevolt series DMMs   US$   150

It's reasonably priced though...

My order is in, with just DIG & MEM options. I'm still hoping for another free MEM promotion so that I can return the license I am paying for.

[JonM]

TestEquity gave me 5% off on a Keysight scope and also went out of their way on an Agilent trade-in so I am inclined to buy the DMM from them as well. I expect them to call sometime in the next few days.

I've had good experience with TestEquity, and bought my 34465A from them.  Ask for 10% off MSRP.

Great tip on the 10%. I got an email offer from TesEquity today for the 2018 Keysight calendar. I filled out the form indicating that I was interested in buying a 34465A. Maybe that will trigger a call. The sales engineer used to call me occasionally but I have not heard from him for a while. Maybe it is because I moved to a different region.

Today I ordered the 34465A with DIG & MEM options. I got the 10% off just by asking for a quote. I told them to not install the options just in case a Free MEM promotion appears and I can return the license. However, since they seem to be getting only batches of 35 meters, and I am in the second upcoming batch, there is probably no reason for a promotion at this point. I will probably not get delivery until mid-April. It will be a race between the 121GW and 34465A...

And the winner is the 34465A. It arrived today, a full week ahead of schedule. It seems that TesEquity got more delivered in the first batch. It does not look good for a free MEM promotion, but I will check one more time before installing the option keys.

[HighVoltage]

And the winner is the 34465A. It arrived today, a full week ahead of schedule. It seems that TesEquity got more delivered in the first batch. It does not look good for a free MEM promotion, but I will check one more time before installing the option keys.

Congratulations
Another option that you might want to look in to is the DIG (Digitizing) option for the 34465A.

[JonM]

Thanks, I did get both DIG & MEM options, but since there was once a free MEM promotion that was the most that I was hoping for. I thought that during or after WAVE 2018 a promotion might appear.  Oh well....

[kj7e]

IIRC, the free mem upgrade was prompted due to the revised max voltage spec (which was since rescinded).

[djnz]

There is a new "Modification Recommended" service note which might be relevant for some members:

http://literature.cdn.keysight.com/litweb/pdf/34465A-02.pdf

It seems that if you do automated testing etc. there is a chance you may have already damaged your U507 and they will replace it, but otherwise, if it's not damaged already, a simple firmware upgrade is all that's needed.

Situation:
User may experience ACV out of specification when frequent function changing from other
measurement functions to ACV. This happens mostly during automated process causing the
component U507 to heat up and ACV measurement to drift out of specification.
This has been resolved in Firmware 2.17 and above.

[TheSteve]

The service note actually applies to the entire series - 34460A, 34461A, 34465A and 34470A.

[Dr. Frank]

That's an LM6172, a double, bipolar, high speed OpAmp.
http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm6172.pdf
Strange, that this device might fail this way (no latch-up to be expected).

Anyhow, thanks for this heads-up, I'll check that on my unit, although it's not very probable to happen in my case.

[stainlessjimmy]

Hello,
this is my first post here, till now i was silent reader only :-)
I just wanted to let you know that Keysight has a new promotion from the beginning of september 2018 - anyone who get one of said DMMs (34465A or 34470A) will get memory option for free. So, it's back again.

Promotion code: 6.028

https://www.keysight.com/main/editorial.jspx?cc=DE&lc=ger&ckey=2990857&nid=-32051.1242959&id=2990857

Regards,
Dim

[janekivi]

Usually this require you to buy DMM during required period,
but it is worth to try to insert your older purchase details.
And I got MEM license too one day : )

[LapTop006]

I would not expect Keysight to haggle on eBay Store prices, but maybe they do?

They don't always accept offers, but they have at least offered a mild discount the few times I tried, albeit never enough to put me over the line.

However, I recently (~3 weeks back) bought a refurb scope from them, and they don't plan to actually ship it until early October which is annoying, particularly so given the amount of money involved.

[JonM]

Hello,
this is my first post here, till now i was silent reader only :-)
I just wanted to let you know that Keysight has a new promotion from the beginning of september 2018 - anyone who get one of said DMMs (34465A or 34470A) will get memory option for free. So, it's back again.

Promotion code: 6.028

https://www.keysight.com/main/editorial.jspx?cc=DE&lc=ger&ckey=2990857&nid=-32051.1242959&id=2990857

Regards,
Dim

I was going to wait until they replaced Windows CE. Then I was going to wait for this free MEM option to re-appear, however the consensus was that it would not return, so I ordered the 34465A at the end of March with DIG & MEM options. Oh well, I have at least made some minor use of the options.

I note that TestEquity has the free MEM option promotion listed now.


 

[Andrew]

I posted about the new firmware release for the 3446xA/70A series in the "34461A" thread because that is what I have, however this may well be the defacto thread for the whole series?

In any case, the 34465A/70A models now get the previous "DIG" option as standard.

New firmware release v3.0 for 3446xA/34470A

Release notes: https://www.keysight.com/main/software.jspx?ckey=2367633&lc=eng&cc=US&nid=-11143.0.00

Of interest to me is: "Adds 2-wire and 4-wire support for 2.25 kΩ and 10 kΩ thermistors in addition to 5 kΩ thermistors."

... and probably of more interest to 34465A/70A owners: "Beginning with Firmware revision 3.0, the digitizing and advanced triggering option (34465A-DIG/34470A-DIG/3446DIGU), is now standard" - time to upgrade? 

[Kean]

I posted about the new firmware release for the 3446xA/70A series in the "34461A" thread because that is what I have, however this may well be the defacto thread for the whole series?

In any case, the 34465A/70A models now get the previous "DIG" option as standard.

Cool - I've always wanted DIG for my 34465A, but couldn't really justify buying it!  I did get MEM for free when I bought it.

[Messtechniker]

Thanks for the heads up.

....toddles off to the lab to refresh the 34465A.
(I still hate it a bit because of the fan howl).

Yes I know. I am too sensitive as to noise.

P.S.: update went well  . Manual not updated yet.

[kj7e]

Updated mine this morning (2.17 -> 3.0), confirmed the DIG option is now installed.  Also completed the free Memory Upgrade promotion form,  I saw nothing to indicate this was limited to purchase date or otherwise.

[janekivi]

You know what is funny? We were talking with tv84 about new hacks
and I have here for experiments only that Rigol and couple of Siglent generators...
and 34465A. His reply was something like this:

Have you got a Keysight??  We can do that.

So... someone was afraid already.

[AndyC_772]

Cool, thanks for the heads-up. My 34465A now has MEM from an earlier promotion, and DIG from the firmware update. Glad I didn't pay good money for those options now!

[Dr. Frank]

Thanks for this info.

The web interface now also works w/o java, a must for most of modern browsers, and the app looks and feels really cool, but is still slow (no realtime update).

I directly bought the DIG option in 2015, and the digitization with trigger functionality I used very often, mostly for current, but also for determination of LTZ1000s oven temperature.

MEM is also necessary for DIG, so lucky who now can have both for free.

Frank

[JonM]

Nice, but I paid for both DIG and MEM... I have my 34465A registered on MyKeysight and have not yet received an email notification that new firmware is available. Eliminating the Java requirement is good.

[HighVoltage]

I also had paid for the original DIG and MEM license when I bought my first 34470A. But I have a 34465A that is not licensed, so its nice to get it for free.

The extra 2.5k and 10k thermistor setting are nice, especially since it was standard in the older 34410A and 34411A instruments.

Mostly I am looking forward to see if the ACAL problem with the drift has been solved.

[LaurentR]

Yay for the HTML5 interface. That's really good news. It's a bit laggy, but usable.
Now, can we get an HTML5 interface on the 33522B 

[TheSteve]

Yay for the HTML5 interface. That's really good news. It's a bit laggy, but usable.
Now, can we get an HTML5 interface on the 33522B 

That is what I am hoping for as well, and for the 532x0 counter series.

[Messtechniker]

Yay for the HTML5 interface. That's really good news. It's a bit laggy, but usable.

Agreed Since I very much dislike convoluted software like Java and Benchvue , for example, I can now move my slightly noisy 34465A away from my workbench putting it on the second screen of my PC. I am delighted. . On the screen its easily twice the original size. Could make it even larger. No resolution problems here. By the way: the beep is not emulated though the speaker of the PC.