Keysight New instruments

[msuthar]

At this link some new instruments shown from Keysight  https://www.keysightbenchchallenge.com/

[balage]

For me it seems these are budget instrument aiming the educational market.

The DMM look ugly for me. I prefer the conventional bench DMM.

[Someone]

Budget perhaps, but its bringing down some of the nice technology to cheaper price points.

Care of Mouser putting up some SKUs:

EDU33210 Series
EDU33212A Waveform generator, 20 MHz, 2-channel
Should be interesting to see whats "left out" from the 335xx series, the non-rackmount form factor would already be a turn off for some uses.

EDU36311A 6 V, 5 A and 2 x 30 V, 1 A, 90 W: LAN, USB

Not sure on the multimeter EDU344??A

[tszaboo]

DC power supply, oscilloscope, function generator, and digital multimeter. A prize valued at $2,500.

So that's about 700 dollars per instrument.
I like the DMM, probably cheaper than the 34460A.
The scope looks like a generic 1000 series scope.
The function generator: It is damn time they come up with something new, their lineup is outdated and overpriced.
DC power supply: Looks nice, has USB probably ethernet, 3 outputs. Where is the ground?

Honestly, they should sell these in a discounted package deals, throw in some extra bandwidth with the scope and they would get a ton of orders. Nowadays everyone I know seems to work partially from home, and having basic instruments at home is not given.

[TheSteve]

DC power supply: Looks nice, has USB probably ethernet, 3 outputs. Where is the ground?

It is to the left of the outputs - colored green as expected.


I like the big screens but wow do they suck up bench space, they don't seem practical at all to me other than the scope.

[nctnico]

DC power supply: Looks nice, has USB probably ethernet, 3 outputs. Where is the ground?

It is to the left of the outputs - colored green as expected.

I like the big screens but wow do they suck up bench space, they don't seem practical at all to me other than the scope.

Same here. The DMM is grossly oversized and except for the PSU the cases aren't really stackable. The function generator is a grey area. I have a similar sized waveform generator. This big screen is great for operating it (including more complicated operations like waveform editing) but being un-stackable is definitely a down side. If the big screen on the Keysight generator is a touchscreen and it has some decent arbitrary waveform editing /  managing abilities then the large size can be useful.

[tautech]

One hundred years ago Henry Ford said you could have his products in any color you liked as long as it was black.
My, how little some things have changed. 

[Bud]

Well,  at least the plastic will not yellow with time 

[rf-loop]

Well,  at least the plastic will not yellow with time 

Smoking in lab room or where ever are test instruments is highly forbidden. And main reason is not this cosmetics. Even in these old time years when I smoke I did not do it any single time in any kind of lab room or room where is test and measurements instruments. Never.

Of course there is also some other reasons specially in some plastics they mysteriously go bit yellowish, even if they are isolated inside cleaned air cabin. Why it happen, I do not know.

Black T&M instruments can not enter in my house. If they try, I have heavy hammer. For blue leds I have small hammer.

[tautech]

Well,  at least the plastic will not yellow with time 

Yellowing if it happens is far less important than plastic embrittlement with age. Even if black unless UV stabilisers have been added degradation can still occur.

[jmw]

Four instruments for that contest, and four boxes delivered to Dave's office ... hmm. 

https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/1363633105488080898

[wolfy007]

Looks like cost cutting by using common casing/molds between the meter, scope and sig-gen perhaps, even the front face of the power supply...

Budget range?

[SilverSolder]

Looks like cost cutting by using common casing/molds between the meter, scope and sig-gen perhaps, even the front face of the power supply...

Budget range?

It is probably just "design"?  - make the instruments look part of a family, make customers want to collect them all...   

[bd139]

Matching underwear. Every test gear collectors dream.

Interested in the DMM if it’s 6.5 digits or better and has data capture stuff.

[JDubU]

Interested in the DMM if it’s 6.5 digits or better and has data capture stuff.

Above photo shows only 5.5 digits on the display.

[EEVblog]

Four instruments for that contest, and four boxes delivered to Dave's office ... hmm. 
https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/1363633105488080898

Well I guess the cat's out of the bag.
Just set them up on my bench.
The PSU looks nice, has a nice sparkly powder coated case and a top carry strap - old school. 
The scope is nothing new.
The new FG reminds me of the Rigol FG, but still not the best form factor, I never likes the Rigol one for that.
The meter is, well, not at all suited to normal lab use in terms of form factor obviosuly. I get that it's aimed at education where you might have one of these siting on it's own on a student desk, but otherwise 
With the probes just sitting on the bench in DCV mode it just sits there annoyingly autoraning continuously, presumably picking up the 50Hz, that would drive me absoutely nuts.
Both the PSU and FG have an annoying dimming screen saver mode by default.
Yes you can stack them that like for photos, but you can't use them like that, just the usual tilting feet. Although any one of them does work on top of the PSU ok-ish.

[EEVblog]

Looks like cost cutting by using common casing/molds between the meter, scope and sig-gen perhaps, even the front face of the power supply...

I doubt it, you'd need new molds anyway for the different cutouts. I think it's a marketing thing.
Yes, it's a new budget range.

[bdunham7]

With the probes just sitting on the bench in DCV mode it just sits there annoyingly autoraning continuously, presumably picking up the 50Hz, that would drive me absoutely nuts.

Does it have a high-impedance input by default?

[EEVblog]

With the probes just sitting on the bench in DCV mode it just sits there annoyingly autoraning continuously, presumably picking up the 50Hz, that would drive me absoutely nuts.

Does it have a high-impedance input by default?

Nope, 10M.
On High-Z it does the usual charge up/down thing but does also annoying autorange but with bonus relay switching!
Just shot a quick video on that, but not sure if Keysight would want me releasing that yet.

[bdunham7]

Nope, 10M.
On High-Z it does the usual charge up/down thing but does also annoying autorange but with bonus relay switching!
Just shot a quick video on that, but not sure if Keysight would want me releasing that yet.

Perhaps they are trying to emulate the Fluke 8846A...

[tautech]

Just shot a quick video on that, but not sure if Keysight would want me releasing that yet.

Oh c'mon Dave, when have you ever given a rats arse about what a manufacture might think of your videos.

[Bud]

Guess he means the models may have not been officially announced yet.

[Berni]

Just shot a quick video on that, but not sure if Keysight would want me releasing that yet.

Oh c'mon Dave, when have you ever given a rats arse about what a manufacture might think of your videos.

Giving a rats arse or not he is still likely under an embargo date that he had to agree to in order to get his hands on these unreleased units. Typical marketing to work up to a big grand release date where the marketing push happens and the reviews from people like Dave go up.

Not really to exited about it personally but i really like the look of that PSU...even if i don't need yet another PSU.

[EEVblog]

Just shot a quick video on that, but not sure if Keysight would want me releasing that yet.

Oh c'mon Dave, when have you ever given a rats arse about what a manufacture might think of your videos.

I don't care what they think of what I say in a video, but it's not released yet, and it would kinda be a dick move to release a detailed video showing an unreleased device when they sent it to me in good faith with a public release date. You are a dealer and get pre-release products, do you release info early?

[tautech]

Just shot a quick video on that, but not sure if Keysight would want me releasing that yet.

Oh c'mon Dave, when have you ever given a rats arse about what a manufacture might think of your videos.

I don't care what they think of what I say in a video, but it's not released yet, and it would kinda be a dick move to release a detailed video showing an unreleased device when they sent it to me in good faith with a public release date. You are a dealer and get pre-release products,

Rarely only for beta testing when we are bound by an NDA.

do you release info early?

Of course, do you not read the forum ? 
When info is on websites irrespective of language it's in the public domain and hence fair game.

Anyways, no need to play the virtuous here Dave as you have been sent pre-release products to review.