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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2012, 09:49:51 am »
A reverse engineering at the IR protocol is coming ?  ;D

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2012, 10:15:08 am »
Why only Android and not iPhone too?

...why not at least link with their PC application?

it does link with the PC data logger.... "Alternatively data logging and monitoring can also be performed at Personal Computer (PC) via Agilent GUI Data Logger Software"

Woops, my bad... I guess I should have read the not-so-fine print first.  ::)
I see they have it in the Element14 NZ store already... for NZD$108.24... But not yet in stock.
http://nz.element14.com/agilent-technologies/u1177a/adapter-ir-to-bluetooth/dp/2079845?in_merch=true&MER=i-e1a0-00001046
 

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2012, 12:03:42 pm »
http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/editorial.jspx?cc=AU&lc=eng&ckey=2147714&nid=-34618.991693.00&id=2147714

$Free is much better than $48  :P

That's a freaking amazing deal... It says in the small print that it can be combined with promo 5.859 (the free DMM with a handheld scope(?) deal). See the two deals:
http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/5865PFS.pdf
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http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/5859PFS.pdf

Edit: I don't think I understand promo 5.859...
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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2012, 12:09:26 pm »
That's a freaking amazing deal... It says in the small print that it can be combined with promo 5.859 (the free DMM with a handheld scope(?) deal). See the two deals:
http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/5865PFS.pdf
and
http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/5859PFS.pdf


Don't forget:
http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/editorial.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&ckey=2133877&nid=-11143.0.00&id=2133877
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/test-equity-sale-for-an-e3600-agilent-basic-bench-powersupply-with-multimeter/msg89044/#msg89044

So for about $400 you can get an Agilent PSU, a U1272A, and now presumably a Bluetooth adapter too?

Dave.
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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2012, 12:34:21 pm »
That's a freaking amazing deal... It says in the small print that it can be combined with promo 5.859 (the free DMM with a handheld scope(?) deal). See the two deals:
http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/5865PFS.pdf
and
http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/5859PFS.pdf


Don't forget:
http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/editorial.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&ckey=2133877&nid=-11143.0.00&id=2133877
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/test-equity-sale-for-an-e3600-agilent-basic-bench-powersupply-with-multimeter/msg89044/#msg89044

So for about $400 you can get an Agilent PSU, a U1272A, and now presumably a Bluetooth adapter too?

Dave.

Yeah, but sadly "Availability: United States and Canada" with the power supply one.
Pity, because the cheapest of those power supplies is NZD$750 and the U1272A is NZD$600. So to get both for $750 would have been great.
But even apart from the country restriction, they wouldn't allow the power supply deal and the free bluetooth adapter deal, the only combined deal is that stated one "5.859" because later on in the small print it also states: "This promotion cannot be combined with other current programs or special offers."

Pity, but that's marketing for ya, they think of everything.  >:(
 

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2012, 12:46:04 pm »

So for about $400 you can get an Agilent PSU, a U1272A, and now presumably a Bluetooth adapter too?

Dave.


Probably not. "8. This promotion cannot be combined with other current programs or special offers"

Also, as mentioned, the PSU deal is USA & Canada only. The bluetooth deal does NOT include USA & Canada.

I think the Americans get the better deal though ;)
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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2012, 01:26:46 pm »
A really great idea and it will value add all their data logging DMMs.  Its a 1mW max. output power bluetooth transceiver, so its class 3, or 5 meter or 15 feet, maximum range.  IIRC the Fluke 233 is about 30 feet so its in its ballpark.

This is a better solution than the data cable and more cost effective, so a good review helps.  Now, if you can upgrade the firmware as needed via the BT, it would be replace the cable entirely.

Note: it has the shortest warranty I've every seen, 3 months [ unless its a typo]!
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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2012, 02:07:21 pm »
I've gotten way more than 5m range out of it. 10-14m is more common in frame construction buildings. The worst range I noted was in the basement of a building with poured concrete walls. The signal was unable to penetrate 3m through the wall, but there was no GSM service available in that basement either :)
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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2012, 02:53:09 pm »
With this out of the way maybe now they can find the time to fix the craptastic continuity buzzer.
 

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2012, 02:57:54 pm »
Ah, it suggests you already have one ;)  and ask you said more to follow.  That video was very informative.  Looking forward to your review! A video would be great. 

I've gotten way more than 5m range out of it. 10-14m is more common in frame construction buildings. The worst range I noted was in the basement of a building with poured concrete walls. The signal was unable to penetrate 3m through the wall, but there was no GSM service available in that basement either :)
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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2012, 03:02:33 pm »
Ah, it suggests you already have one ;)  and ask you said more to follow.  That video was very informative.  Looking forward to your review! A video would be great. 

I did post the link, but here it is again, and I'll move it to the first post if I can still edit that :)

http://youtu.be/tSodrChd4iU

That's me ;)

Edit: I think maybe I misunderstood you the first time around - I guess you already saw this video. I will try and get some more up soon and it would be very helpful if you could let me know what kind of things you'd like to see discussed. It's not exactly a product I can do a comparison of, since there's really nothing else like it on the market, and certainly nothing in a price range I could afford just to do a shootout :)
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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2012, 03:20:37 pm »
Why only Android and not iPhone too?

At the risk of side-jacking the thread...

Developing an Android application is a lot easier... No need to apply to access the software development kit (SDK), quicker to get accepted (Anrdiods Marketplace doesn't screen applications much at all). Alternatively, side loading the application from your own web server is quick and easy.

From a marketing perspective it makes some sense also, purchase a dirt cheap android phone, throw it into a lock up box with the multimeter and you are done. Might need a sim card in case you want the phone to report back when an event happens (such as under voltage).

Caveat: I haven't seen the device in question nor the Andriod app but it appears to make sense to me.
 

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2012, 03:32:49 pm »
Why only Android and not iPhone too?

At the risk of side-jacking the thread...

Developing an Android application is a lot easier... No need to apply to access the software development kit (SDK), quicker to get accepted (Anrdiods Marketplace doesn't screen applications much at all). Alternatively, side loading the application from your own web server is quick and easy.

From a marketing perspective it makes some sense also, purchase a dirt cheap android phone, throw it into a lock up box with the multimeter and you are done. Might need a sim card in case you want the phone to report back when an event happens (such as under voltage).

Caveat: I haven't seen the device in question nor the Andriod app but it appears to make sense to me.
Cheap android phones in mind : LG Optimus series .
 

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2012, 03:42:03 pm »
Just saw the thread where the americans and canadians could get a U1272A for $329... and then get a $100 mail in rebate! Come on Agilent, why are we paying DOUBLE? I'd rather have two multimeters than a free BT dongle ;)

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2012, 04:37:19 pm »
Its great, sorry I didn't think it was you, we at least know now how you look like as there was a reflection on the Asus screen  :D.  That's a good test under your hands, you sure have a lot of Agilent DMMs.  Do the other functions also get sent via bluetooth, like say frequency counter or capacitance?

How do you like your Asus Android pad?  Can you read pdfs well on it, like Agilent users/service manuals, schematics or electrical drawings?

Thanks a bunch for doing it.

Ah, it suggests you already have one ;)  and ask you said more to follow.  That video was very informative.  Looking forward to your review! A video would be great. 

I did post the link, but here it is again, and I'll move it to the first post if I can still edit that :)

http://youtu.be/tSodrChd4iU

That's me ;)

Edit: I think maybe I misunderstood you the first time around - I guess you already saw this video. I will try and get some more up soon and it would be very helpful if you could let me know what kind of things you'd like to see discussed. It's not exactly a product I can do a comparison of, since there's really nothing else like it on the market, and certainly nothing in a price range I could afford just to do a shootout :)
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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2012, 05:11:11 pm »
That is WAY too cool!

But why cant Agilent Brazil have such promos?   :'(  My lab would be complete in a month if they did  ;D !!
 

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2012, 05:43:37 pm »
I heard about this bluetooth thing a while ago during a survey. Wasn't as excited as i have yet to use my ir-usb cable as i don't use PC much and disappointedly they don't have a mac software for all these data logging stuff. 

They also said that Apple doesn't allow them to write application to connection to the popular ipad/iphone platform so there is only support for android.

Wifi would have a longer range, what would be the range of the BT device in actual use. I would rather have a wifi than a blue tooth dongle  .
 

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #45 on: March 01, 2012, 05:48:23 pm »
Come on Agilent, people really need identical pricing for your gear, all over the world (within 10%), and same promotion deals as in USA. I know it can be done, just ditch the greedy dealers that you now do business with!

And a robot that can go with the meter and probe stuff on our instruction while we lay on the sofa with the android pad:)))
 

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2012, 05:59:06 pm »
Element-14 have started selling Agilent stuff in Australia, and while their prices are still nowhere near USA prices, they're still a bit cheaper than the other (two) dealers in Australia.

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2012, 06:28:32 pm »
I haven't seen a $400 PSU, they all start at $ 461.
 

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2012, 08:01:45 pm »
Let's see if I get this right, per meter you own, you'd need a ~50$ device, if you want it to send you a notification when something happens you need it connected to a constantly running computer or another phone that is always connected to the Internet?

Yeah, I don't see any advantage aside from maaaaaaaybe data logging (which I think you can also do via IR to USB cables?)
 

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Re: It's official. Agilent just whooped Fluke's ASS!
« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2012, 09:01:26 pm »
Agilent... err they need to fix some of they DMMs first.

I have a problem on my U1232As that does not happen on the Fluke or any other DMM I have tried, it even does not happen on my scope.

Agilent asked me  to send the units back because they thought the units were defective and I received two new DMMs with the same problem.

Seems like they are not willing to fix this issue.

I can post my findings if somebody is willing to know.

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