REVIEW - Rigol DS2072 - First Impressions of the DS2000 series from Rigol

[Hydrawerk]

2GSa/s ADCs will always be expensive, I think.

[jhufford]

To me its all in the game, RIGOL could have easily closed the loop hole, but they did not. In fact I suspect that RIGOL helped the guys that needed to unlock the scopes with hints and private keys, all too boost the sales. For example the DS1000Z license system was also suddenly unleashed with the help of an anonymous source.  That's now almost 2 years ago.

I've wondered that too, perhaps Rigol doesn't mind unlocking, even secretly likes it, since it increases the desirability of the scope. Really, 300 MHz 2 GSa/s for under $900 is pretty kickass. Business customers aren't going to unlock them, and they'll want to keep the warranty, whereas hackability quite possibly increases overall revenue coming from us mere mortals. I agree about corporations, some of them are pretty awful.

I'm not sure when the DS2000 came out, but the DS2000A hasn't been out that long, although it didn't really seem like much of an upgrade, 50ohm input, maybe some firmware fixes. Did they actually redo the front end to get that extra 100Mhz, or was it more like swap out a component or two? Seems to me they are basically trying to squeeze a bit more life out of an existing platform before moving on (and the 4000 series is getting old too). I'm just trying to decide how long I should wait to purchase one, with lucky timing, there's the possibly of some killer deals to be had.

[Hydrawerk]

I'm not sure when the DS2000 came out

I think it was autumn 2012.

[Teneyes]

I'm not sure when the DS2000 came out

I think it was autumn 2012.

Bought mine in summer 2012, with S/N. 003xx,  so I say spring time.  FW 00.01.02, lots of bugs under the bridge.

[etl17]

Another MSO2072A-S that experiencing issues with the latest 3.3.2.6 firmware.
The problem seems to be happening when only one channel is turned on and during changing the horizontal timebase (especially for slower timebase settings). The problem seems not to be happening when the Acquire->Anti-aliasing is off.

Has anyone figured out how to downgrade firmware on the A series?

[DG5SAY]

Has anyone figured out how to downgrade firmware on the A series?

I´ve tried various ways to downgrade my DS2072A from awful version 3.3.2.6, but nothing worked. I have a bootloader version that prevents a downgrade, so I have to wait for the next firmware which will hopefully works better. 

[Godzil]

Another MSO2072A-S that experiencing issues with the latest 3.3.2.6 firmware.
The problem seems to be happening when only one channel is turned on and during changing the horizontal timebase (especially for slower timebase settings). The problem seems not to be happening when the Acquire->Anti-aliasing is off.

Has anyone figured out how to downgrade firmware on the A series?

What is the problem?

[Orange]

Another MSO2072A-S that experiencing issues with the latest 3.3.2.6 firmware.
The problem seems to be happening when only one channel is turned on and during changing the horizontal timebase (especially for slower timebase settings). The problem seems not to be happening when the Acquire->Anti-aliasing is off.

Has anyone figured out how to downgrade firmware on the A series?

What is the problem?

The scope locks up . Details can be found if you go one page back

[Godzil]

Oh!

I've got this problem on my brand new one, can't remember if it was too before I update it, I tought about a problem with it, but as it seems to be this version of the firmware..

[Godzil]

So no one have an experience with the official Rigol bag for the DS2000?

[Sparky]

Does any of you own this bag, and what is your though about it?

So no one have an experience with the official Rigol bag for the DS2000?

I have uploaded some notes and comments on the Rigol BAG-G1.  Hope you find it helpful.

[Godzil]

Does any of you own this bag, and what is your though about it?

So no one have an experience with the official Rigol bag for the DS2000?

I have uploaded some notes and comments on the Rigol BAG-G1.  Hope you find it helpful.

Thanks!
Cheers

[etl17]

It looks like there is a new firmware version 3.4 SP1 available as its shown here: http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/form/1579/0012:d-0001/1/index.htm

Hopefully, it solves the lock-ups introduced by 3.3 SP2


Anyone has access to it?  :-)

[f1rmb]

It looks like there is a new firmware version 3.4 SP1 available as its shown here: http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/form/1579/0012:d-0001/1/index.htm

Hopefully, it solves the lock-ups introduced by 3.3 SP2


Anyone has access to it?  :-)

I've just requested the latest firmware version, and received.... a firmware for the DM3068 inside a nice DS2000Update.zip file. Bummer.

Cheers.

[Orange]

It looks like there is a new firmware version 3.4 SP1 available as its shown here: http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/form/1579/0012:d-0001/1/index.htm

Hopefully, it solves the lock-ups introduced by 3.3 SP2


Anyone has access to it?  :-)

I did not install it yet, but you can find it here:

http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/fs/blocks/showLandingPage/a/1579/p/p-001a/t/page/fm/0

[EV]

Orange, thanks for the link!

[Circlotron]

I was just thinking, the battery for the RTC will eventually need replacing. Is this hard to do? I remember some early pc motherboards had the battery inside a clock module and it made life difficult. Hopefully it is just a CR2032 or similar, out in the open on the main board, and the scope doesn't lose any calibration data when the battery does quit.

[JDubU]

I was just thinking, the battery for the RTC will eventually need replacing. Is this hard to do? I remember some early pc motherboards had the battery inside a clock module and it made life difficult. Hopefully it is just a CR2032 or similar, out in the open on the main board, and the scope doesn't lose any calibration data when the battery does quit.

There is a CR3032 in a battery holder on the back of the main DS2000 PCB:

[Muxr]

I just received a 03.04.01.00 for my DS2000, haven't tried it yet.

http://rev.muxr.org/rigol/DS2000Update.zip

There are also release notes and upgrade procedure: http://rev.muxr.org/rigol/

[CustomEngineerer]

Received an email from rigoltech.com email address today with a link to the new firmware and release notes for the DS2 Series. When I click the link for the release notes it downloads a file named "Release Notes DS2v3_3_2_6 6-17-15.pdf" which is the previous firmware and only contains the release notes for up to that revision. So no release notes for the new version. I downloaded the firmware linked in the email and get a zip file named DS2000Update.zip. When I unzip this file I get another zipped file named DS2000FWUpdate.zip. When I unzip this one it creates a directory/file named DS2000(DSP)Update_00.03.04.01.00/DS2000Update.GEL. At least it appears to contain the correct firmware, though not sure why its double zipped. I haven't bothered installing it yet because I haven't seen anyone else report that they have installed it and I am currently not having any problems with v00.03.03SP2.

[motocoder]

Received an email from rigoltech.com email address today with a link to the new firmware and release notes for the DS2 Series. When I click the link for the release notes it downloads a file named "Release Notes DS2v3_3_2_6 6-17-15.pdf" which is the previous firmware and only contains the release notes for up to that revision. So no release notes for the new version. I downloaded the firmware linked in the email and get a zip file named DS2000Update.zip. When I unzip this file I get another zipped file named DS2000FWUpdate.zip. When I unzip this one it creates a directory/file named DS2000(DSP)Update_00.03.04.01.00/DS2000Update.GEL. At least it appears to contain the correct firmware, though not sure why its double zipped. I haven't bothered installing it yet because I haven't seen anyone else report that they have installed it and I am currently not having any problems with v00.03.03SP2.

There firmware update system seems a little odd. Today, out of the blue, I got a firmware update email for the DP800 (DP832) power supply. I reviewed the release notes, and looked at the firmware, and if it's labeled correctly it's firmware version 00.01.14.00.03 released on 4/24/2015. Note sure why they decided to send that to me today. Of course, it's possible it's a different firmware, and the release notes weren't updated correctly. I didn't bother to compare the files, and quite frankly I'm not going to bother. Not looking to risk bricking my equipment without good reason.

[f1rmb]

Received an email from rigoltech.com email address today with a link to the new firmware and release notes for the DS2 Series. When I click the link for the release notes it downloads a file named "Release Notes DS2v3_3_2_6 6-17-15.pdf" which is the previous firmware and only contains the release notes for up to that revision. So no release notes for the new version. I downloaded the firmware linked in the email and get a zip file named DS2000Update.zip. When I unzip this file I get another zipped file named DS2000FWUpdate.zip. When I unzip this one it creates a directory/file named DS2000(DSP)Update_00.03.04.01.00/DS2000Update.GEL. At least it appears to contain the correct firmware, though not sure why its double zipped. I haven't bothered installing it yet because I haven't seen anyone else report that they have installed it and I am currently not having any problems with v00.03.03SP2.

There firmware update system seems a little odd. Today, out of the blue, I got a firmware update email for the DP800 (DP832) power supply. I reviewed the release notes, and looked at the firmware, and if it's labeled correctly it's firmware version 00.01.14.00.03 released on 4/24/2015. Note sure why they decided to send that to me today. Of course, it's possible it's a different firmware, and the release notes weren't updated correctly. I didn't bother to compare the files, and quite frankly I'm not going to bother. Not looking to risk bricking my equipment without good reason.

Same here, received the same email with the "old" firmware.

EDIT: just done an md5sum of this one and the original 1.14 archives, they are identical.

Cheers.
---
Daniel

[f1rmb]

I just received a 03.04.01.00 for my DS2000, haven't tried it yet.

http://rev.muxr.org/rigol/DS2000Update.zip

There are also release notes and upgrade procedure: http://rev.muxr.org/rigol/

I've just done a quick and dirt upgrade (+ FRAM, default settings, autocal). It looks like I can't lockup my scope anymore.

Cheers.
---
Daniel

[Muxr]

I just received a 03.04.01.00 for my DS2000, haven't tried it yet.

http://rev.muxr.org/rigol/DS2000Update.zip

There are also release notes and upgrade procedure: http://rev.muxr.org/rigol/

I've just done a quick and dirt upgrade (+ FRAM, default settings, autocal). It looks like I can't lockup my scope anymore.

Cheers.
---
Daniel

Good to hear!

[BloodyCactus]

Received an email from rigoltech.com email address today with a link to the new firmware and release notes for the DS2 Series. When I click the link for the release notes it downloads a file named "Release Notes DS2v3_3_2_6 6-17-15.pdf" which is the previous firmware and only contains the release notes for up to that revision. So no release notes for the new version. I downloaded the firmware linked in the email and get a zip file named DS2000Update.zip. When I unzip this file I get another zipped file named DS2000FWUpdate.zip. When I unzip this one it creates a directory/file named DS2000(DSP)Update_00.03.04.01.00/DS2000Update.GEL. At least it appears to contain the correct firmware, though not sure why its double zipped. I haven't bothered installing it yet because I haven't seen anyone else report that they have installed it and I am currently not having any problems with v00.03.03SP2.

There firmware update system seems a little odd. Today, out of the blue, I got a firmware update email for the DP800 (DP832) power supply. I reviewed the release notes, and looked at the firmware, and if it's labeled correctly it's firmware version 00.01.14.00.03 released on 4/24/2015. Note sure why they decided to send that to me today. Of course, it's possible it's a different firmware, and the release notes weren't updated correctly. I didn't bother to compare the files, and quite frankly I'm not going to bother. Not looking to risk bricking my equipment without good reason.

Same here, received the same email with the "old" firmware.

EDIT: just done an md5sum of this one and the original 1.14 archives, they are identical.

Cheers.
---
Daniel

they must have had an email glitch, I got an email for the DG1032Z AWG with firmware 'latest firmware' from june they sent me back in june!

they glitched up somewhere