Do You kill Flukes?

[001]

Hi

There are many treads here about CAT ratings and safety 

But... DOES ANYBODY KILLED HIS FLUKE YET? How do You did this? 

[tautech]

NO !
Watch Joes videos:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hear-kitty-kitty-kitty-nope-not-that-kind-of-cat/

[001]

NO !
Watch Joes videos:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hear-kitty-kitty-kitty-nope-not-that-kind-of-cat/

it's out of the game  I mean common users

[tautech]

NO !
Watch Joes videos:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hear-kitty-kitty-kitty-nope-not-that-kind-of-cat/

it's out of the game  I mean common users

Really are you that impatient not to watch a 'real' hobbyist and his great videos in search of 'robust' DMM's.

YOU WILL NOT FIND BETTER INFO ANYWHERE !

[Mr. Scram]

Really are you that impatient not to watch a 'real' hobbyist and his great videos in search of 'robust' DMM's.

YOU WILL NOT FIND BETTER INFO ANYWHERE !

I think he's just asking for anecdotes about how people blew the arse end out of a Fluke.

[ataradov]

I use cheap meters all the time and have not killed one either.

[001]

Really are you that impatient not to watch a 'real' hobbyist and his great videos in search of 'robust' DMM's.

I`m not happy when somebody destroy gear for destroy reason only

I mean common problems in use

[tautech]

Really are you that impatient not to watch a 'real' hobbyist and his great videos in search of 'robust' DMM's.

YOU WILL NOT FIND BETTER INFO ANYWHERE !

I think he's just asking for anecdotes about how people blew the arse end out of a Fluke.

Well if you're gunna do that then you'll have your arse fried too.....plenty of YT videos of industrial accidents.....he can go look for them instead of us holding his hand.

Really are you that impatient not to watch a 'real' hobbyist and his great videos in search of 'robust' DMM's.

I`m not happy when somebody destroy gear for destroy reason only

I mean common problems in use

Watch Joes vids and learn or do you have a short attention span ?

[001]

Watch Joes vids and learn or do you have a short attention span ?

It  is not about tesla circus  but about working
there are many OLD flukes too
how way they dead?

[chris_leyson]

Nope. Dropped my Fluke 73 recently and had to glue back the broken pieces but that is once in 35 years, never had to replace the fuse and it's been checked agaisnst much newer Fluke meters and it's still in spec. I think I probably killed a cheap analogue meter when I was a kid and let the magic smoke out but my Fluke 73 still says 230VAC when it's 230VAC. It's still safe within it's CAT rating even though the switch back stop has broken. I wouldn't be surprised if I could get another 15 years out of it, then it will be 50 years old and I might be pushing up the daisies so I wouldn't worry about it.

[tautech]

Watch Joes vids and learn or do you have a short attention span ?

It  is not about tesla circus  but about working
there are many OLD flukes too
how way they dead?

Who cares ?

Unless you're dumb enough to buy an old DMM and place yourself at risk !

[001]

Unless you're dumb enough to buy an old DMM

for engineering experience only
vintage electronics is a some sort of art

[lowimpedance]

Unless you're dumb enough to buy an old DMM and place yourself at risk !

I would say those two statements do not go hand in hand, as many 'old meters' are perfectly safe to use, (fluke or otherwise). Plenty of 'old DMM's' being 'bought' over in the TEA thread, are they dumb and/or putting themselves at risk ?.
What the end user does with either an old or new meter is their choice to make, hopefully they know what they are doing.

[tautech]

Unless you're dumb enough to buy an old DMM and place yourself at risk !

I would say those two statements do not go hand in hand, as many 'old meters' are perfectly safe to use, (fluke or otherwise). Plenty of 'old DMM's' being 'bought' over in the TEA thread, are they dumb and/or putting themselves at risk ?.
What the end user does with either an old or new meter is their choice to make, hopefully they know what they are doing.

One proviso, with a SH DMM you have NO idea of the use or abuse it has suffered......sure not an issue if you're just measuring an Arduino.

[GreyWoolfe]

Unless you're dumb enough to buy an old DMM and place yourself at risk !

I would say those two statements do not go hand in hand, as many 'old meters' are perfectly safe to use, (fluke or otherwise). Plenty of 'old DMM's' being 'bought' over in the TEA thread, are they dumb and/or putting themselves at risk ?.
What the end user does with either an old or new meter is their choice to make, hopefully they know what they are doing.

I agree, my Fluke 27/FM is my only hand held DMM in the house.  Everything else are bench meters.  Haven't been stoopit with it yet.

[bd139]

My father killed his Fluke 77 (original series) dead poking around inside a TV. Blank screen. Never worked again. Think the HT hit it on volts mode. Would have been 25kv ish.

I got the replacement Fluke 77 about five years after that and didn’t kill it 

[EEVblog]

Can't recall ever having killed any name brand meter with an actual surge overload (apart from the usual blown to bits fuse), either personally or in a work setting.
But then again, I haven't worked much on big industrial stuff.

Of course there is the Famous Fluke 19 that just killed itself 
Working Fluke 19's are rare as hen's teeth.

[lowimpedance]

My father killed his Fluke 77 (original series) dead poking around inside a TV. Blank screen. Never worked again. Think the HT hit it on volts mode. Would have been 25kv ish.

I got the replacement Fluke 77 about five years after that and didn’t kill it 

Haven't been tempted to do a little microwave servicing yet ?!.....  .

And yes, I have my 'still working' original series 77 that has seen a fair bit of TV HV and  mains work. (Always thought better not to poke a probe under the ultor cap though !.)

[joeqsmith]

Watch Joes vids and learn or do you have a short attention span ?

It  is not about tesla circus  but about working

I`m not happy when somebody destroy gear for destroy reason only

I wonder what makes you not happy?  Obviously you are quite ignorant about what I have been showing if you feel I destroy them just for the sake of destroying them.    Maybe rather than calling it a circus you have some constructive comments about why you feel the testing is a circus or maybe could ask some intelligent questions that may help you understand.   No matter... It fits in with your other posts. 

[vk6zgo]

My Fluke 77 has been around since 1988, & seems to be virtually unkillable.
Obviously, if you do something totally stupid, you can kill any meter,  but if I was really trying to kill one, I wouldn't fart around, I'd just drive over it!

[lowimpedance]

My Fluke 77 has been around since 1988, & seems to be virtually unkillable.
Obviously, if you do something totally stupid, you can kill any meter,  but if I was really trying to kill one, I wouldn't fart around, I'd just drive over it!

And that folks is the no risk safe way to do it  ............. now what to do about the dumb part 

[EEVblog]

Unless you're dumb enough to buy an old DMM and place yourself at risk !

I would say those two statements do not go hand in hand, as many 'old meters' are perfectly safe to use, (fluke or otherwise). Plenty of 'old DMM's' being 'bought' over in the TEA thread, are they dumb and/or putting themselves at risk ?.
What the end user does with either an old or new meter is their choice to make, hopefully they know what they are doing.

One proviso, with a SH DMM you have NO idea of the use or abuse it has suffered......sure not an issue if you're just measuring an Arduino.

Not hard to visually inspect. How likely is it that spike has taken out a MOV for example without physical damage for example. Blown PTC's will usually affect the measurements. Fuses are replaceable.
So it's not hard to be confident in a 2nd hand DMM if you know what you are buying.

[Brumby]

Decades ago, I had a guitarist friend who was mad about getting the best of things - so when he asked me what the best meter was, I said "Fluke".  This was in the days when I didn't know much about any other top range meters - but I knew Fluke had a reputation that matched my friend's expectations.

He went out and splashed a few hundred dollars and bought himself one.  (Sorry, I can't remember the model.)

He contacted me a few days later saying his meter wasn't working.  I popped over and asked him to show me what was wrong.  He proceeded to tell me he wanted to "check the mains current" in his house.  I saw him set up the meter for a current measurement and then aim the probes at the live and neutral of a power point.

We had a little conversation about that.

I believe a new fuse was fitted and the meter was fine.  So it didn't get killed ... sorry.

[tautech]

Unless you're dumb enough to buy an old DMM and place yourself at risk !

I would say those two statements do not go hand in hand, as many 'old meters' are perfectly safe to use, (fluke or otherwise). Plenty of 'old DMM's' being 'bought' over in the TEA thread, are they dumb and/or putting themselves at risk ?.
What the end user does with either an old or new meter is their choice to make, hopefully they know what they are doing.

One proviso, with a SH DMM you have NO idea of the use or abuse it has suffered......sure not an issue if you're just measuring an Arduino.

Not hard to visually inspect. How likely is it that spike has taken out a MOV for example without physical damage for example. Blown PTC's will usually affect the measurements. Fuses are replaceable.
So it's not hard to be confident in a 2nd hand DMM if you know what you are buying.

Sure IF you have the chance to inspect it in person.
This forum is littered with members bad DMM buying experiences, even Flukes many that result in eBay returns to the seller.

Want something that can be trusted at full rated specs, well cough up for a new Fluke or one of the EEVblog meters.

[EEVblog]

Not hard to visually inspect. How likely is it that spike has taken out a MOV for example without physical damage for example. Blown PTC's will usually affect the measurements. Fuses are replaceable.
So it's not hard to be confident in a 2nd hand DMM if you know what you are buying.

Sure IF you have the chance to inspect it in person.
This forum is littered with members bad DMM buying experiences, even Flukes many that result in eBay returns to the seller.

But it's not an argument about a "buying experience", it's about being able to trust a 2nd hand meter in terms of safety. Obviously every 2nd hand bit of gear is a risk in many aspects.

Want something that can be trusted at full rated specs, well cough up for a new Fluke or one of the EEVblog meters.

Even brand new meters have a small failure yield.