At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...

[jemangedeslolos]

I agree with that.
There are also other aspects to consider that only hardware and software in the final price but it is something not so easy to calculate.

From my point of view, since this is the very first 1Ghz oscilloscope from Siglent, the price seems very low compared to the competition.
It’s probably more difficult ( and therefore more expensive ) to design an 1Ghz oscilloscope from scratch for a little company.
R&S is a big one with huge experience and lots of products on the market.

I have no numbers and no evidences but I think R&S has more flexibility than Siglent.

But I'm like everyone here, everything is still too expensive, I would love to buy a full featured SDS5000X or RTM3K or RTA4k for 1000€ 

[nctnico]

I have no numbers and no evidences but I think R&S has more flexibility than Siglent.

I'm quite sure of that. The higher productivity from the RTM3k and backing from an A-brand is worth the extra money.

[jemangedeslolos]

I don't know, I didn't use either but that's not the subject at all here.

I know that you had a RTM3000 from R&S for a review ( very very nice review by the way  ).
Maybe you also had the SDS5000x and you can compare ? ( I know that you had the old Siglent SDS2000 and that you were very disappointed )

But on the R&S thread, It seems that not everyone is on the same opinion.
Bugs are still here, new one are introduced if im not mistaken.

It also seems that Siglent is making progress in this aspect ( and Rigol don't... ).
Updates are regular and they take into account user feedback.

[tautech]

From my point of view, since this is the very first 1Ghz oscilloscope from Siglent, the price seems very low compared to the competition.
It’s probably more difficult ( and therefore more expensive ) to design an 1Ghz oscilloscope from scratch for a little company.

2 points arise from this discussion.
1. Siglent have been building 1 GHz DSO's for 5+ years in conjunction with their long standing relationship with LeCroy.
2. I have not been informed of bundle discounts from Siglent therefore it seems only Batronix are offering package deals.
A hunt trough the official Siglent websites finds no clear mention of promotional pricing for SDS5kX models yet if you hunt through the banners there's a promo running 'til March 2020.

[Martin72]

Hi,

. A hunt trough the official Siglent websites finds no mention of promotional pricing for SDS5kX models.

https://www.siglent.eu/oscilloscopes/sds5000x-1.html

[tautech]

Hi,

. A hunt trough the official Siglent websites finds no mention of promotional pricing for SDS5kX models.

https://www.siglent.eu/oscilloscopes/sds5000x-1.html

Distributor like myself.

[Martin72]

Hi,

https://int.siglent.com/



 

[tautech]

Thanks Martin, edit to previous post added.

Thanks also to 0xdeadbeef for spotting this. 

[Martin72]

Call me mad, but with this promo, I seriously think about it to swap from rigol to siglent….
Only the price in itself, we talk about over 3000 bucks, makes me stuck.
So far…..

[jemangedeslolos]

Me too 
But Im waiting for the SDS2000X+ before making my choice.
The SDS5000X is a bit overkill for me but have no competition at this price.

[Martin72]

But Im waiting for the SDS2000X+ before making my choice.

I´m waiting for the next update for my MSO5 from rigol, before making a decision.
What the content of additional features concerns.
If this fails, the SDS5000 will be first choice for a swap.
The price is killing me....
3400€ are heavy for a private person.
Selling the rigol will not really help, it would be still over 2000 additional bucks.

[jemangedeslolos]

Hummm much more I think.

I don't know how much you can sell the mso5000, but you would rather add 2500€ 

I hope Siglent will read this message and offer me an SDS5000X for 2000 € but it would be wiser to go for the SDS2000X+

[tautech]

New firmware for SDS5000X models.

Version 0.9.1
60MB 

https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Oscilloscope/SDS5000X_0.9.1_EN.zip
https://siglentna.com/download/17103/
https://www.siglenteu.com/download/9140/

Release notes.
1. Acquire enhancement:
 a) Added memory depth options: 5K(2CH), 10K(1CH), 25K(2CH), 50K(1CH)
 b) Added the upper limit of Average to 65536, and optimized speed of Average
 c) Supported ERES in Roll mode
2. New Triggers: Nth edge, Setup/Hold and Delay
3. Math enhancement:
 a) Supported new math operators: Sign, Abs, Exp, Log, Identity and Negate
 b) Supported F1 and F2 as the source of Formula editor
 c) Supported Span-Center/Start-End mode in FFT
4. Measure: Supported setting maximum statistics number
5. Remote Control optimization:
 a) Optimized read speed of WF command
 b) Supported to export Math traces using WF command
6. Supported “Apply to AWG”in the “Cx -> Apply to” menu
7. Optimized SPO display
8. Supported saving .mat data format and bin2csv tool
9. Updated the Help information
10. Fixed several bugs
 a) Vertical measure error increases as offset increases
 b) Any operations when recalling default setting may cause UI abnormal
 c) The scope sometimes forgets the previous math settings
 d) Incorrect horizontal offset on reference of FFT trace
 e) AWG auto-zero fails in normal mode

[tv84]

New firmware for SDS5000X models.

Version 0.9.1

  Siglent.

Have you tried it, tautech?

Let's hope it will be reflected in the lower models.

[tautech]

New firmware for SDS5000X models.

Version 0.9.1

  Siglent.

Have you tried it, tautech?

Let's hope it will be reflected in the lower models.

Yep installed however not explored in detail as yet.
Improvements remain unaffected. 

[Martin72]

Let's hope it will be reflected in the lower models.

Hope it too….

[oewean]

New firmware(0.9.1B2), fixed a small bug: attenuation factor for Siglent SAP1000 probe

https://www.siglenteu.com/service-and-support/firmware-software/digital-oscilloscopes/#sds5000x-series

[tautech]

New firmware(0.9.1B2), fixed a small bug: attenuation factor for Siglent SAP1000 probe

Confirmed as fixed.

[Emo]

I can confirm the FFT to be correct now. I do have another weird issue though. (It is not related to the latest firmwares)
When using the SDG2042(liberated) as AWG it does function properly in the bode plot(beautiful application btw. !!!!!!) Plug it in in either USB port and in configuration press test and voila, success.
However when pressing the physical AWG menu button or the touch screen button, it says the generator cannot be found.
At first I suspected the USB port of the SDG2042 as the PID&VID are not USBTMC compliant
SDG2042 reports;
VID&PID f4ec ee38(is known as SDS1204-E in the USB database)

The SAG1021 and SDG1010 do have according to specs;
VID&PID f4ed ee3a(already TMC mode)

However changing to the ethernet connection the result is the same.
Although I rarely use AWG it seems odd. Can someone confirm that the SDG/SAG do work and the SDG does not. Or is it a result of the "liberation" and thus missing serial?

Regards,

Eric

Very satisfied about this scope and its features.

[tautech]

Emo, all the SDG models cannot be controlled by the scope except for Bode plot usage via USB or LAN connectivity.

The scopes AWG menu is exclusively for the optional USB SAG devices, SAG1021 or the newer isolated output SAG1021I.

The optional USB SAG devices allow for plug and play free Bode plot use however for general AWG use the AWG option license needs be purchased/activated for continued use beyond the free trial times.

[0xdeadbeef]

For the record: not really surprising but the "free options" promotion obviously was prolonged to end of June.

[tautech]

The probe adapter LPA10 to allow connection of LeCroy active probes is now available.
$ 249



https://siglentna.com/product/lpa10/

The adapter for Tek active probes maybe ready in June.

[Martin72]

This is simply excellent 
Lecroy surely won´t never ever offers tek adapters, tek won´t never ever offer lecroy adapters.
And then siglent come along….
Really great, although it´s for the 5000 only and not for mine…
(Couldn´t go)

[nctnico]

T E A R D O W N ! 

[maginnovision]

Absolutely I'd love to see inside that. Come on tautech, it's your time to shine.