Author Topic: Agilent MSO 5000/6000/7000 - anyone hacked these scopes? (Read 294361 times)

laptopmd · « **Reply #500 on:** September 23, 2016, 12:09:16 pm »

Hi !

I want to thank everyone posted on this thread. I wanted an MSO scope from the day i saw the youtube video of mikeselectricstuff about reverse engineering the ipod lcd protocol.

I have crawled the web searching for a used MSO6034 or 6054 until i found this thread where you explain how to convert a DSO6034A into an MSO and then i have searched for this last one.

So, following mikeselectricstuff suggestion i just bought a used Agil..ehm... Keysight DSO6034A from official ebay store at the price of 2000$ (free shipping) and can't wait to "upgrade" it to mso

Thank you again for your hard work figuring out how to patch the fw, you are the best!
Dave

laptopmd · « **Reply #501 on:** October 05, 2016, 06:42:15 pm »

Got the scope and uploaded the new FW.

Everything work apart option code 8ML , it says it is not valid. Someone tried it ?
Thanks
Dave

voltsandjolts · « **Reply #502 on:** October 05, 2016, 06:51:29 pm »

I think thats included for free in the latest Agisight firmware - maybe you can't enter it cause it's already there?
Or is it only the later build scopes that got that for free?

laptopmd · « **Reply #503 on:** October 05, 2016, 06:53:51 pm »

Quote from: voltsandjolts on October 05, 2016, 06:51:29 pm

I think thats included for free in the latest Agisight firmware - maybe you can't enter it cause it's already there?
Or is it only the later build scopes that got that for free?

Thanks voltsandjolts.

My information screen say mem2M, maybe i am confused and 8ML is only an hardware upgrade and not only software... sorry

voltsandjolts · « **Reply #504 on:** October 05, 2016, 07:30:29 pm »

I'm fairly sure its a software option for all DSO/MSO6000

Yup:

Option 8ML
8 Mpts memory for MSO/DSO603xA models
From page 22 of datasheet:
http://www.upc.edu/sct/documents_equipament/d_194_id-665.pdf

For 500MHz and 1GHz seems to have been called option 8MH
But I see you have a 6034 (same here, great scope BTW!)

mikeselectricstuff · « **Reply #505 on:** October 05, 2016, 08:22:40 pm »

8M became standard fairly early on - don't recall offhand if it was still in the license list in later FW

laptopmd · « **Reply #506 on:** October 05, 2016, 08:42:27 pm »

Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on October 05, 2016, 08:22:40 pm

8M became standard fairly early on - don't recall offhand if it was still in the license list in later FW

Wow Mike !! Your suggestion sent me in the right direction, thanks !

I have opened sys6000.bin with an Hex editor to read which options are availables. 8ML is not more available but i found that i have enabled every single option but not "ALL" !!
Then i have entered "ALL" licence and.. bam !! now it show memMAX :-)

Thank you again, i am using this scope from 2hr but i am already super happy with it !
Dave

laptopmd · « **Reply #507 on:** October 05, 2016, 09:03:52 pm »

Found other codes in fw. (EDIT : already posted before, sorry)

nctnico · « **Reply #508 on:** October 05, 2016, 09:11:13 pm »

AFAIK CIR is not an official option but it is nice to have because segmented recording keeps running until you press stop in circular segmented mode. Only the user interface isn't very clear on what is going on so I guess that is the reason it never got official.

blackfin76 · « **Reply #509 on:** October 19, 2016, 09:46:52 am »

Do these hacks still work with the latest firmware? I might be able to buy a DSO7000A model for a reasonable price.

HighVoltage · « **Reply #510 on:** October 19, 2016, 09:50:20 am »

Quote from: blackfin76 on October 19, 2016, 09:46:52 am

Do these hacks still work with the latest firmware? I might be able to buy a DSO7000A model for a reasonable price.

The hack works well on the DSO7000A but do NOT update to the latest FW, stay one below.
If you have updated already to the latest FW, re-installing the older one is no problem.

blackfin76 · « **Reply #511 on:** October 19, 2016, 10:06:26 am »

Quote from: HighVoltage on October 19, 2016, 09:50:20 am

Quote from: blackfin76 on October 19, 2016, 09:46:52 am
Do these hacks still work with the latest firmware? I might be able to buy a DSO7000A model for a reasonable price.
The hack works well on the DSO7000A but do NOT update to the latest FW, stay one below.
If you have updated already to the latest FW, re-installing the older one is no problem.

I don't think the scoop has been updated to the latest firmware, in fact it might be the original firmware from 2009. But say I would update the firmware, the latest would not be a good idea. Where could one get the former latest firmware? The manufacturer doesn't offer it on it's website.

HighVoltage · « **Reply #512 on:** October 19, 2016, 10:22:12 am »

Send me a PM

Keysight DanielBogdanoff · « **Reply #513 on:** October 19, 2016, 05:33:01 pm »

Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on October 05, 2016, 08:22:40 pm

8M became standard fairly early on - don't recall offhand if it was still in the license list in later FW

8M of memory is standard now, the switch happened before my time. We also are giving away that license to anyone who doesn't have it for their 6000. If you don't have the memory license and want one, call the support center and they'll get you taken care of.

mikeselectricstuff · « **Reply #514 on:** October 19, 2016, 05:58:09 pm »

Quote from: Keysight_DanielBogdanoff on October 19, 2016, 05:33:01 pm

Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on October 05, 2016, 08:22:40 pm
8M became standard fairly early on - don't recall offhand if it was still in the license list in later FW

8M of memory is standard now, the switch happened before my time. We also are giving away that license to anyone who doesn't have it for their 6000. If you don't have the memory license and want one, call the support center and they'll get you taken care of.

I must have been one of the few people that bought it, though I also vaguely recall that when it became standard they also increased the list price.

Keysight DanielBogdanoff · « **Reply #515 on:** October 20, 2016, 05:20:01 pm »

Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on October 19, 2016, 05:58:09 pm

Quote from: Keysight_DanielBogdanoff on October 19, 2016, 05:33:01 pm
Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on October 05, 2016, 08:22:40 pm
8M became standard fairly early on - don't recall offhand if it was still in the license list in later FW

8M of memory is standard now, the switch happened before my time. We also are giving away that license to anyone who doesn't have it for their 6000. If you don't have the memory license and want one, call the support center and they'll get you taken care of.
I must have been one of the few people that bought it, though I also vaguely recall that when it became standard they also increased the list price.

It all happened before my time, so I don't really know details of what all went down. I do know that we do periodic (usually small) price increases every 6 months, so it's possible those two events happened at the same time.

blackfin76 · « **Reply #516 on:** October 20, 2016, 09:21:45 pm »

Thank you guys for all the hard work you did in hacking this scope

I bought a DSO7014A from a local merchant (NOS catching dust) and it now has all the nice decoders and MSO features. Also really like the 1mV option, it's a bit noisy but the signal cleans up at just two averagings. I still have to get used to the giant screen and the Agilent menu's. I think this one will be part of the lab gear for a while.

Howardlong · « **Reply #517 on:** October 20, 2016, 10:14:25 pm »

Quote from: blackfin76 on October 20, 2016, 09:21:45 pm

Thank you guys for all the hard work you did in hacking this scope

I bought a DSO7014A from a local merchant (NOS catching dust) and it now has all the nice decoders and MSO features. Also really like the 1mV option, it's a bit noisy but the signal cleans up at just two averagings. I still have to get used to the giant screen and the Agilent menu's. I think this one will be part of the lab gear for a while.

The giant telly is a blessing and a curse! Firstly it's superb resolution for an embedded scope, I don't think even today there are many scopes that can boast XGA resolution, but to some extent its wasted with over-large fonts. This is the trade off of sharing the same software with the 6000, with it's identical XGA resolution but in a 6 incher. I did some calculations a while ago, IIRC the actual graticule display pixel measured area on the 6/7000 is double that of the current x4/x6000, and about triple that of an x2/x3000.

Edit: grocer's apostrophe.

Berni · « **Reply #518 on:** October 21, 2016, 05:12:32 am »

Quote from: Howardlong on October 20, 2016, 10:14:25 pm

The giant telly is a blessing and a curse! Firstly it's superb resolution for an embedded scope, I don't think even today there are many scopes that can boast XGA resolution, but to some extent it's wasted with over-large fonts. This is the trade off of sharing the same software with the 6000, with it's identical XGA resolution but in a 6 incher. I did some calculations a while ago, IIRC the actual graticule display pixel measured area on the 6/7000 is double that of the current x4/x6000, and about triple that of an x2/x3000.

Yeah the fonts would become a bit hard to read at a bit of distance if they ware any smaller on the tiny DSO6000s display. But due to the resolution on a tiny display the fonts look superbly clear without any antialiasing.

I always wanted a DSO7000 but i could never find one for a good price so i had to settle for a 6000

Orange · « **Reply #519 on:** October 28, 2016, 08:21:53 am »

Hi,

Just some screen shots from my new DSO7014A with enabled options and rise time measurements. I used an Tek 284 for this, which has about 70ps rise time

blackfin76 · « **Reply #520 on:** October 29, 2016, 12:34:07 pm »

Hi Orange, mine has similar rise times. Did you get yours from Oldenzaal?

Orange · « **Reply #521 on:** October 29, 2016, 12:50:03 pm »

Quote from: blackfin76 on October 29, 2016, 12:34:07 pm

Hi Orange, mine has similar rise times. Did you get yours from Oldenzaal?

Yes I did. I was lucky, it was his last one. Nice chap to deal with.
It's an impressive piece of gear.
BTW, I now have it running on V6.20, after I had it liberated under Version 6.16. The options remained enabled with the latest revision.
V6.20 has a fix for Java version 8.20 and higher if you use the WEB interface.

HighVoltage · « **Reply #522 on:** October 29, 2016, 01:12:18 pm »

Congratulations on your successful liberation.
Is Oldenzaal a town or a name of a seller in NL?

Orange · « **Reply #523 on:** October 29, 2016, 03:07:31 pm »

Quote from: HighVoltage on October 29, 2016, 01:12:18 pm

Congratulations on your successful liberation.
Is Oldenzaal a town or a name of a seller in NL?

Hi HV
The seller is located in Oldenzaal (close to the German border) http://skye-electronics.com/

nctnico · « **Reply #524 on:** October 29, 2016, 03:11:58 pm »

How much did you pay? The prices on their website are easely beaten by Ebay.


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