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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #900 on: March 16, 2015, 10:58:24 am »
Great! And nope, I'm the Markus who does the m-firmware. The Markus who did the original design abandoned the project. Karl-Keinz (k-firmware) took over and I joined in.

Do you have any documentation on your version of the firmware? Is it an enhanced K firmware or something alltogether different?

The distribution package includes a readme file describing all the differences. The functionality of both firmwares is quite similar. but there are differences on how things are done. And the m-firmware lacks support of graphical LCDs (might change). The m-firmware measures caps down to 5pF for example, or is able to distinguish MT1 and MT2 of a detected TRIAC.
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #901 on: March 16, 2015, 06:07:21 pm »

And the m-firmware lacks support of graphical LCDs (might change). The m-firmware measures caps down to 5pF for example, or is able to distinguish MT1 and MT2 of a detected TRIAC.

Well, if you find yourself with a little time on your hands,  how about adding the graphics support (with pretty device pictures),   the ability to measure FET on resistance,  and a scope/logic analyzer mode?  I'd buy you a beer...
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #902 on: March 24, 2015, 06:53:23 pm »
Great! And nope, I'm the Markus who does the m-firmware. The Markus who did the original design abandoned the project. Karl-Keinz (k-firmware) took over and I joined in.

Do you have any documentation on your version of the firmware? Is it an enhanced K firmware or something alltogether different?

The distribution package includes a readme file describing all the differences. The functionality of both firmwares is quite similar. but there are differences on how things are done. And the m-firmware lacks support of graphical LCDs (might change). The m-firmware measures caps down to 5pF for example, or is able to distinguish MT1 and MT2 of a detected TRIAC.

I'm going to give your firmware a try, mind posting a link to the distribution package? The sites I've found are all in German.
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #903 on: March 24, 2015, 07:11:19 pm »
I'm going to give your firmware a try, mind posting a link to the distribution package? The sites I've found are all in German.

You'll find the source at http://www.mikrocontroller.net/svnbrowser/transistortester/Software/Markus/ or pre-compiled versions at http://www.avrtester.tode.cz/index.php?p=firmware for example.
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #904 on: March 26, 2015, 02:02:09 pm »
I've tried 1.17m

It seems somewhat different, it seems to be in continuous auto test mode and it doesn't begin a calibrate when I connect all three leads on power up. Also I haven't found any other test modes (holding down the switch on the k firmware). Does it need the rotary switch?
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #905 on: March 26, 2015, 05:29:41 pm »
I've tried 1.17m

It seems somewhat different, it seems to be in continuous auto test mode and it doesn't begin a calibrate when I connect all three leads on power up. Also I haven't found any other test modes (holding down the switch on the k firmware). Does it need the rotary switch?

Please read the README file in the distribution archive. Everything is explained there. Power on the tester with a long key press (>0.3s) for the auto-hold mode. For the menu short circuit all three probes or press the test button two times (short key presses). And it doesn't require a rotary encoder, besides for the squarewave generator.
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #906 on: March 27, 2015, 12:23:24 am »
Hello
I bought on ebay this esr meter


everything is working ok except for the measurement of capacity and ESR
If I measuring small value capacitors <10uF readings are quite accurate but when I measure 100uF results are about 200uF (5 capatitors new and used) esr 0.20-0.40ohm
for 1000uF readings are 600-700uF,
470uF readings 0nF vloss around 1% esr no readings
1500, 2200uF readings 0nF

for all test I used brand new and used capatitators
Can someone help me to fix it? I try calibrate (connect pins 1 2 3 go trough test mode....)
thank you
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #907 on: March 28, 2015, 12:19:16 pm »
Most probably is the wrong setting of fuses. The correct values should be:
lfuse:0xff hfuse:0xd9 efuse:0x04

In the annex is backup original firmware of my tester (v2.1) and compiled firmware v1.12k revision 424 (Karl-Heinz Kübbeler).

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The problem could be a bad value C16. The correct value must be 1nF.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2015, 12:34:00 pm by tom666 »
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #908 on: March 29, 2015, 03:18:52 pm »
thanks for your response
I measured the c16 and its value is 1nF.
I'm new at this, to do new firmware I need USBASP interface?
like this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USBASP-USBISP-AVR-Programmer-Adapter-10-Pin-Cable-USB-ATMEGA8-ATMEGA128-Arduino-/310506909410?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item484ba76ee2
on ebay I can find that can flash ATmega328P or this one can?
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #909 on: March 30, 2015, 08:05:19 am »
Yes. I use exactly this type of USBasp programmers. In practice, you can use any ISP programmer intended for programming AVR MCU's.

The attached picture documents connection USBasp to board of my tester with the ISP connector.

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #910 on: April 01, 2015, 03:13:38 pm »
I got one of these for $15 off Ebay. So far it's been doing the right thing on any component I tried. I am actually kind of impressed.
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #911 on: April 01, 2015, 08:35:26 pm »
How about a link to the seller's page.
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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #913 on: April 03, 2015, 11:37:53 am »
Freshly compiled and tested version 1.12k revision 444 for Fish8840 Tester. To download at the end of the first post on the forum:
AVR Component Tester (RLC/ESR & Semiconductors Tester)
or here  :)

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #914 on: April 03, 2015, 03:51:40 pm »
Which of the testers are that?, I found another one described here:
http://techobsessed.net/2015/01/fish8840-avr-transistor-tester-review/

 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #915 on: April 03, 2015, 05:13:54 pm »
My tester I bought here:
Ebay item: 281477820303

It is precisely this:
Review: Component Tester Fish8840

Note:
These devices are sold by many vendors with different display panel. However, the motherboard is identical - see attached pictures.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2015, 08:17:48 am by tom666 »
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #916 on: April 03, 2015, 05:42:55 pm »
"Fish8840 Tester" version I preferred due to the easy implementation of other types of LCD (characters or graphics). Supplementing of few parts (LCD & ISP connector, trimer 10k) and changing one resistor on mainboard LCD (LED resistor) can be used classic 16x2 character LCD. Further adjustments can be with supplemented precision voltage source (R19, U3) and fix the connection of the voltage divider (R8, R15) for battery voltage measurement. A lot of useful information can be found in the official manual (by Karl-Heinz Kübbeler).

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #917 on: April 04, 2015, 09:03:49 am »
My tester I bought here:
Ebay item: 281477820303

It is precisely this:
Review: Component Tester Fish8840

Note:
These devices are sold by many vendors with different display panel. However, the motherboard is identical - see attached pictures.

I'm pretty sure all of those originated from Fish8840's TaoBao store.

The yellow "T-4" transistor tester Muxr linked to comes from 91Make's TaoBao, which is also the source of the inexpensive AD584 voltage reference boards, and the slightly more expensive plexi-encased versions that have been mentioned elsewhere on the forum before.

I like the presentation of the information on the 91Make version the best, but I like the "EZM Electronics Studio" GM328 most because it is, as I understand it, closest to the original design, and open source firmware, plus the MCU is socketed and most of the components are through-hole for easier modification. There are variants with both a graphical display and a 2-line display.

I should probably finish the video I started editing comparing the three...but I probably won't.
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #918 on: April 04, 2015, 01:46:10 pm »
I've owned two of these testers now. The first was a Fish8840, which I stupidly killed with a (not very) charged capacitor. My current one is a "Yellow T-4", I got the up-market one with the plexiglass case, but the board looks identical to the cheap ones. I could never think of an easy way of casing the Fish8840 due to the separate display board needing either a stepped front panel or extending the ZIF socket and buttons.

A couple of observations. I agree that the Yellow "T-4" screen layout does seem to be the easiest to read (aging eyes) it also has an external 2.5V reference on board, even if it is only a TL431 rather than anything more exotic, I couldn't find one on the Fish8840 PCB. The battery voltage reading on the T-4 seems to start low on the "T-4" and slowly creep up over subsequent presses of the test button, no idea why that would be. The "T-4" has a slightly amusing representation of a Zener when connected between pins 1 and 3... It shows it as two opposite polarity diodes in SERIES rather than parallel.

The first thing I did after buying the second tester was to fit the relay input protection mod as detailed in the official manual. I hadn't realised just how sensitive the inputs would be to a capacitor that had been unsoldered and sitting for several days (charge recovery).
« Last Edit: April 04, 2015, 01:48:37 pm by Gyro »
Best Regards, Chris
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #919 on: April 04, 2015, 03:31:56 pm »
@Gyro:
I sent a personal message.

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #920 on: April 11, 2015, 03:14:25 pm »
What about this one:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/251791049879?nav=SEARCH

Power through rechargable batt. or usb and suitable for in circuit testing…

Any comments?
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #921 on: April 11, 2015, 03:52:21 pm »
I am still waiting for the Free Electron version...
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #922 on: April 11, 2015, 03:58:29 pm »
What about this one:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/251791049879?nav=SEARCH
Power through rechargable batt. or usb and suitable for in circuit testing…
Any comments?
All of this testers are just only different variations of the PCB - based on the standard wiring diagram ;) This tester includes rechargeable battery - it is only one difference.  Images on ebay documented use of the original software by Karl-Heinz Kübbeler. In recent posts on the official discussion forum you will find also some information.

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #923 on: April 16, 2015, 11:16:13 pm »
I got this one :  LCR-T5 Mega328 but I am having some issues...

Unit seems to operate well but when testing electrolytic capacitors the screen flickers and gets upside down and mirrored.
Could it be a buggy factory firmware or a component issue? Did anybody else had the same problem?

« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 11:19:21 pm by Yekuku »
 

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Re: $20 LCR ESR Transistor checker project
« Reply #924 on: April 17, 2015, 04:57:47 am »
Are you careful to fully discharge large capacitors before trying to test them?
 


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