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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2025 on: September 08, 2021, 11:06:24 pm »
screen full off in slp and runmode is awesome feature  :-+
wrote adc avg (350+450)/2 numba and got just as close to 400 as i wnted. cool. now only two numbas to rape encoder.  :-DD

p.s. nice new "no iron" in russian  8)

got adc offset 10. stand loop adds 30. also as i remember ad8605 is not zerodrift, just very precise and very fast. i guess i should find ad8628 which has almost zero offset.
jbc tips are so precise i can get 1 adc sample unit change with just a breath near the tip.
now i can grow some bacterias in petri with my ksger controller thanks David!

for jbc ad8605 ksger 2.1
was
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250 1910
350 2660
450 3460
now
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offset 10
250 1900
400 3050
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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2026 on: September 08, 2021, 11:49:48 pm »
Your amp drift is ok, 20adc is just 3°C or so.
The problem is like mine, 360.
I also have a lower amp gain, for 450°C it needs ~2300, so the offset has a deeper impact.
I recall screwing something up few months ago after soldering something related to the JBC, the drift became larger, reverting the mods didn't fix it, and it became part of the family.


I don't want to modify my board,, has suffered all kind of torture during the development, there're damaged pads everywhere, specially in the screen and T12 connections, which need to be desoldered to access the back of the PCB(Where the amp is located).
I asked Quicko for the board only, they wanted 20$, which is a bit wtf when I can buy the whole kit for $34...

You didn't report any calibration results! :-/O
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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2027 on: September 09, 2021, 12:00:18 am »
You didn't report any calibration results! :-/O
sorry im just abusing manual cal set :-DMM
and had only quick test without actuall calibration cycle.
test was ok - 250c was ~250c, 400c was ~400c
 

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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2028 on: September 09, 2021, 06:16:40 am »
I asked Quicko for the board only, they wanted 20$, which is a bit wtf when I can buy the whole kit for $34...
David maybe you or another member could design and make your own PCB better than KSGER & Quicko, selecting and using only the best parts!
 

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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2029 on: September 09, 2021, 07:07:29 am »
there is already project for combo station with hot air gun channel,, but i obviously think its fw is much less comfortable
 

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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2030 on: September 09, 2021, 09:38:32 am »
I already designed a similar controller months ago because I was bored.



It's untested, unfinished (NTC on-board), not in my current plans doing anything else with it. The Proteus files are there.
There're good enough controllers. With little modifications (Op-amp, some capacitors, LDO) some ksgers will perform great.
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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2031 on: September 09, 2021, 07:01:25 pm »
I already designed a similar controller months ago because I was bored.



It's untested, unfinished (NTC on-board), not in my current plans doing anything else with it. The Proteus files are there.
There're good enough controllers. With little modifications (Op-amp, some capacitors, LDO) some ksgers will perform great.
I hope somebody takes it or is inspired by it and does a GoFundMe
 

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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2032 on: September 09, 2021, 07:02:02 pm »
With little modifications (Op-amp, some capacitors, LDO) some ksgers will perform great.
LITTLE
from this way its just like if i bought only stm32 and pcb.
but if make new controller ill say it would be better to make full new project with bigger resolution display(for better graphics) and dual channel (for tweezers support or 2 handles)
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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2033 on: September 09, 2021, 10:10:21 pm »
I need these translations to make the next builds:

.SYSTEM_Oled_Dim = "Dimmer"
.SYSTEM_Oled_Dim_inSleep = " In sleep"



Max. 10 char:

.CAL_ZeroSet = "Zero set"
.CAL_Sampling = "Sampling"
.CAL_Captured = "Captured"

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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2034 on: September 10, 2021, 01:38:34 am »
.SYSTEM_Oled_Dim = "Dimmer"
.SYSTEM_Oled_Dim_inSleep = " In sleep"
.CAL_ZeroSet = "Zero set"
.CAL_Sampling = "Sampling"
.CAL_Captured = "Captured"
.SYSTEM_Oled_Dim = "Затемнение"
.SYSTEM_Oled_Dim_inSleep = " Реж.Экрана"
for current off=screen off, on=screen on and dims

.CAL_ZeroSet = "ХолСмещОУ"
.CAL_Sampling = "Замер.."
.CAL_Captured = "Записано"

also there is mistake in big "NO IRON" in russian translation, 1 char missing  :'( should be "ОТКЛЮЧЕН"
sry for didnt notice it before, my eyes lie to me sometimes.
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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2035 on: September 10, 2021, 08:06:30 am »
I need these translations to make the next builds:
Swedish:
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      .SYSTEM_Oled_Dim_inSleep = " I sovläge",
      .CAL_ZeroSet = "Nolläge    %4u",
      .CAL_Sampling = "Mäter      %4u",
      .CAL_Captured = "Uppmätt    %4u",
 

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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2036 on: September 10, 2021, 09:05:56 am »
David maybe you or another member could design and make your own PCB better than KSGER & Quicko, selecting and using only the best parts!
nema 17 stepper motor, nema 17 driver, nema 23 stepper motor, buy stepper motor, small stepper motor, closed loop stepper, 3 Phase Stepper Motor, 2 phase stepping motor.
3 Phase Stepper Motor, nema 23 stepper motor, nema 23 stepper
 

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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2037 on: September 10, 2021, 09:21:22 am »
Maybe,  maybe... Maybe someone could send me $1.000.000  :)

It's fine for me, I already said that a thousand times, I'm not doing that, so stop insisting, it's really bad for my patience :D



Wickated, I see, the symbol "Т" was missing from the font script. I'll fix it before the new release. It's a bit messy to do!

Isn't this wrong? Mixing upper and lower case options?

.WakeModes =   { "откл", "СОН", "ВЫКЛ", "все" },
                              ^^                              ^^


I made more changes to the oled dimmer:
[SLP] option has changed to [ON]. So you have [OFF] [ON] [ALL].
ON mode will be applied in low power modes (sleep and standby), no matter the temperature, as the screen is perfectly readable.
The safety is still there, it will only turn off the screen only in sleep mode, when the tip temperature is below 100ºC.

[ALL] is same as before, enabling the dimmer while running (But never turning off).

Feel free to show your suggestions before I make the new builds.
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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2038 on: September 10, 2021, 10:44:30 am »
but screen off in run mode is still there ?
 

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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2039 on: September 10, 2021, 10:53:26 am »
Re-read the post  :D.
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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2040 on: September 10, 2021, 10:56:42 am »

Isn't this wrong? Mixing upper and lower case options?

.WakeModes =   { "откл", "СОН", "ВЫКЛ", "все" },
no it isnt. cuz actually those are two "off" words(but with different additional meanings. off stands for "disable" and OFF also means "shut down") and it looks like "off" and.. "off", so it had to be differed in that way - "off" for a feature and "OFF" as a mode state
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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2041 on: September 10, 2021, 11:00:40 am »
So"откл" is different from "ОТКЛ", or "все" from "ВСЕ"?
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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2042 on: September 10, 2021, 11:07:24 am »
So"откл" is different from "ОТКЛ", or "все" from "ВСЕ"?
yep - small should be off and on for feature and big for iron states. "все" is ok for "all possible variants" , "ВСЕ" is not used afair, but if is it would mean all 3 iron states slp,sby,run only.
nvm, ive seen u minimized possible text usage and same words linked across all menus, so ill recheck after new features added to build.
p.s. also i had to mix abbreviations in a weird way and delete spaces or points just to make a clear and readable view.
 

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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2043 on: September 10, 2021, 11:10:02 am »
Yeah, I took existing parts for the dim modes (OFF, ON, ALL).
Wouldn't be strange if I did it wrong, so please check them:

.dimMode =     { "откл", "ВКЛ", "все" },
.dimMode =     { "AV", "PÅ", "ALLA" },
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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2044 on: September 10, 2021, 11:26:09 am »
Yeah, I took existing parts for the dim modes (OFF, ON, ALL).
Wouldn't be strange if I did it wrong, so please check them:

.dimMode =     { "откл", "ВКЛ", "все" },
.dimMode =     { "AV", "PÅ", "ALLA" },
jajaja
so here fun part begins. "ВКЛ" stands for ON, so it logically fully duplicates "all" and is unclear.
so i actually prefer SLP instead of ON (SBY if more accurate, i guess screen actually start dimming on SBY state, am i right?)

 

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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2045 on: September 10, 2021, 11:37:01 am »
I'll use "СОН" then. Or which of the 1000 russian versions :D?
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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2046 on: September 10, 2021, 11:41:19 am »
I'll use "СОН" then. Or which of  the 1000 russian versions of it :D?
yeah it should be ok  :-+

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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2047 on: September 10, 2021, 12:15:51 pm »
p.s. chinese room in action





New builds available (21-09-10). Updated operation manual.
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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2048 on: September 10, 2021, 02:26:52 pm »
loaded new build, got some strange results. offset is BELOW zero
 

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Re: CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations
« Reply #2049 on: September 10, 2021, 02:35:40 pm »
I see nothing wrong. What does that picture explain?
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