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Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery
« on: February 22, 2015, 07:56:14 pm »
Yep, as anounced in the title I'm going to sell flywheel toroid battery patent.
It is ranked along with NASA, Bacon and other huge flywheel energy players on great 16th/50 position on this prestigous list  :scared:
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Mentioned great idea video was made a few years ago-attentionally key components removed and everything made very crappy looking recorded using low res Pentax camera, but do not fall into a trap

Nowadays, It is not only concept and idea nowmore and hopefully physics works and it is not a  :bullshit:
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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2015, 08:37:56 pm »
o.k. so what are you selling ? because that 25 second footage is a waste of the viewers precious time.  i see a coil and a toroid with magnets... in the 17th century you would be probably recognized as a great inventor with this kind of experiment , but it's too late nowadays  :-DD :-DD :-DD
 

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2015, 07:23:06 am »
Does awesome14 have two accounts here?
 

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2015, 07:30:13 am »
lol, wtf did I just watch!

I'll give you a half eaten twix bar for your patent provided it comes complete with all the "hardware" shown in your video  :palm:
 

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2015, 08:20:29 am »
i see a coil and a toroid with magnets...
Yep, you only see what I wanted viewers to see that time, but some of them can see much more there  ;)

lol, wtf did I just watch!
You are the lucky one who saw this before press release  :-DD
Anyway, final product is carbon fibres hidden inside concrete toroid brick with 3 bulky wires out, so not too much hardware there  :D

Look at those numbers: 1000kg mass @ 100m/s speed has kinetic energy equal to 5MJ, so ~1.4kWh of energy easy stored  :-DMM
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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2015, 08:44:12 am »
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Mentioned great idea video was made a few years ago-attentionally key components removed and everything made very crappy looking recorded using low res Pentax camera, but do not fall into a trap
So, now that the patent is actually valid, care to show the actual setup?

Is the point of the idea having a rotating flywheel without a center support, rather supported by a magnetic field or not supported at all, just rotating within an assembly of coils, like a toroid core?
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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2015, 09:15:54 am »
i see a coil and a toroid with magnets...
Yep, you only see what I wanted viewers to see that time, but some of them can see much more there  ;)

lol, wtf did I just watch!
You are the lucky one who saw this before press release  :-DD
Anyway, final product is carbon fibres hidden inside concrete toroid brick with 3 bulky wires out, so not too much hardware there  :D

Look at those numbers: 1000kg mass @ 100m/s speed has kinetic energy equal to 5MJ, so ~1.4kWh of energy easy stored  :-DMM

are you kidding now ?  :-DD 1.4kWh in a 1 ton of mass  which is rotating and therefore is extremely dangerous ?  :-DD  :-DD  :-DD

tesla's battery pack does 85kWs with comparable weight (but i think it's lighter than a ton)
the cost of the mechanical setup for your 1 ton mass (bearings, required structural strengths) will be extremely high (unless you don't give a shit about safety).

i think as of today batteries are cheaper in terms of TCO.
 

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2015, 09:21:00 am »
What's the patent number and where the link to the patent you're selling?
 

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2015, 09:22:58 am »
I'd like to revise my offer to just the empty Twix wrapper and a small piece of paper with a coffee stain on it.
 

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2015, 10:26:23 am »
are you kidding now ?  :-DD 1.4kWh in a 1 ton of mass  which is rotating and therefore is extremely dangerous ?  :-DD  :-DD  :-DD

I just learned that "Flywheel batteries" are real and such devices are used in the real world, in theory they are pretty nifty...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel_energy_storage

But what the thread starter posted there goes straight to my trashbin, that is some grade A free energy style crap.
Even if it is real and pigs started to fly, that is no way to present something :)
 

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2015, 02:00:43 pm »
tesla's battery pack does 85kWs with comparable weight
I think that Porshe in this hybrid gets more power at lower weight  >:D



But what the thread starter posted there goes straight to my trashbin, that is some grade A free energy style crap.
Nope, I get free energy yes, but from the sun and wind vertical turbine, but not with 1000% efficiency.
I like free energy, but by the means of existing known physics laws  >:D

BTW: 10 tons @ 360 km/h has kinetic energy equivalent to ~14kWh  :-DMM
Is it fast?
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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2015, 02:19:57 pm »
Quote from: eneuro link=topic=43514.msg616213#msg616213
But what the thread starter posted there goes straight to my trashbin, that is some grade A free energy style crap.
Nope, I get free energy yes, but from the sun and wind vertical turbine, but not with 1000% efficiency.

Sorry, i should have phrased that better.
The video style and lack of information makes it go straigt into the realm of "free energy crap" despite if it is real, works or not :)
Only lunatics tend to post 5 second videos made with potato cam, without narration.
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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2015, 02:32:27 pm »
I'd like to revise my offer to just the empty Twix wrapper and a small piece of paper with a coffee stain on it.
I'll up that to a fart blown in his general direction. (If you are quick and light it, you may get some energy out of it)
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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2015, 03:30:57 pm »
Yep, as anounced in the title I'm going to sell flywheel toroid battery patent.


What's the patent number?
 

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2015, 03:46:58 pm »
Flywheel use in No Break without battery:

http://www.euro-diesel.com/english/operation-description/94/2
 

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2015, 06:41:40 pm »
Is the point of the idea having a rotating flywheel without a center support, rather supported by a magnetic field or not supported at all, just rotating within an assembly of coils, like a toroid core?
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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2015, 07:12:53 am »
It's been done.

It might be UFOs technology, which could create electricity by fast conductor rotation in Earth magnetic field  :-DD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homopolar_generator

A homopolar generator is a DC electrical generator comprising an electrically conductive disc or cylinder rotating in a plane perpendicular to a uniform static magnetic field.

However it is interesting device due to Faraday paradox  ;)
If the magnetic field is provided by a permanent magnet, the generator works regardless of whether the magnet is fixed to the stator or rotates with the disc. Before the discovery of the electron and the Lorentz force law, the phenomenon was inexplicable and was known as the Faraday paradox.

Anyway those devices were inspiration to my flywheel toroid battery  :-+
Industrial designs of 10 MJ were introduced for a variety of roles, including electrical welding.

But, I have AC and changing magnetic field, so nope it is not owrking on principle of Faraday disks  :)

BTW: 10MJ is kinetic energy of 1000kg mass @ ~510 km/h ONLY . It is still below speed of sound  :phew:
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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2015, 05:23:34 pm »
Yep, as anounced in the title I'm going to sell flywheel toroid battery patent.
It is ranked along with NASA, Bacon and other huge flywheel energy players on great 16th/50 position on this prestigous list  :scared:
  :o

More flywheel energy stuff from this list there:


Mentioned great idea video was made a few years ago-attentionally key components removed and everything made very crappy looking recorded using low res Pentax camera, but do not fall into a trap

Nowadays, It is not only concept and idea nowmore and hopefully physics works and it is not a  :bullshit:

awesome, does the patent include the string?

i take it the hammering in the background are your team of engineers working on the Duplo bricks?

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2015, 07:24:42 pm »
What exactly here is new? All I see is another implementation of using a flywheel to store energy, hardly a new idea.

You're claiming to have a patent to sell, so all the information is A) already in the public domain, B) protected from anyone just using the idea.
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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2015, 08:07:26 pm »
Since he haven't answerd the questions about patent number, there probably isn't any patent.
 

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2015, 08:23:44 pm »
It's not April 1st for another month.  :--
 

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2015, 09:28:23 pm »
All I see is another implementation of using a flywheel to store energy, hardly a new idea.
One can store energy using flywheel, just.... by takeing it 500 meters (0.5km) above ground level.
If flywheel has a mass 1000kg  5MJ of energy will be stored, too - this is what 1.4 kWh could do ...

Anyway you can have 1000kg toroid flywheel rotating at  400 RPM and have 5MJ too , easy 8)

Now, imagine what happends when you rotate something which already rotates, like moons around planets around the Sun  >:D
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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2015, 11:38:01 pm »
What's the purpose of your flywheel? Those things work fine on steam engines. Not a practical battery though.
 

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Re: Eneuro to sell flywheel toroid battery patent
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2015, 07:46:46 am »
You sir are a genius!  I am putting together a syndicate of high-net-worth individuals who are thrilled at the opportunity to buy what you are selling, provided that we have right of first refusal on your future inventions.
 


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