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Offline Monkeh

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Re: Do I trust this breaker?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2021, 04:33:02 am »
No. Don't be cheap, the proper ones aren't even expensive.
 

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Re: Do I trust this breaker?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2021, 04:42:16 am »
Looks similar to the fake CB in this Big Clive Teardown:


 

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Re: Do I trust this breaker?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2021, 05:53:56 am »
just don't go with north korean, they never finish, I imagine ponyang has circuit breakers carved out of wood
 

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Re: Do I trust this breaker?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2021, 06:26:50 am »
theirs probobly has a square d logo branded into the wood
 

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Re: Do I trust this breaker?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2021, 12:26:21 pm »
Hey, josh132! Guy, people are worried! Let us know how you feel!
No worries, josh132 is bulletproof :popcorn:
 
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Re: Do I trust this breaker?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2021, 12:54:59 pm »
It is a bad sign when someone is selling what purports to be a "circuit breaker" as a DC unit when the silkscreen on the device clearly states 400V AC 50 Hz.  It is unlikely to be suitable for DC at any voltage even if it actually is an overcurrent device. 

At $5, there is a good chance that it is a mislabelled disconnect like BigClive showed rather than an actual circuit breaker with overcurrent protection.  Who buys these things?!   :scared:
 

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Re: Do I trust this breaker?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2021, 02:48:51 pm »
There is a rule in the UK that only breakers from the same manufacturer as the consumer unit (panel) may be fitted. I don't know if it's the same in the US.


P.S. Where has the OP's text gone? There's just the Amazon link now.  :-\
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Re: Do I trust this breaker?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2021, 02:52:32 pm »
At $5, there is a good chance that it is a mislabelled disconnect like BigClive showed rather than an actual circuit breaker with overcurrent protection.

I wish people would stop perpetuating the idea that thing is mislabeled. It is not, it is a plain and simple fake.

Also, a genuine 3-pole MCB can be had for about $10 in single quantity..

P.S. Where has the OP's text gone? There's just the Amazon link now.  :-\

That's all there ever was.
 
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Offline Gyro

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Re: Do I trust this breaker?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2021, 03:00:23 pm »
P.S. Where has the OP's text gone? There's just the Amazon link now.  :-\

That's all there ever was.

Ah, my brain must have seen the title as body text!

In that case, the answer is even simpler... NO.
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Re: Do I trust this breaker?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2021, 03:01:04 pm »
I wish people would stop perpetuating the idea that thing is mislabeled. It is not, it is a plain and simple fake.

Why is that?

Do you not believe that DIN-rail mounted non-fusible disconnect switches exist?   :-//

Edit: Intentionally mislabelled as a scam, I mean...

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Also, a genuine 3-pole MCB can be had for about $10 in single quantity..

Really?  Where?

Personally, I don't think I would trust any $10 three-phase circuit breaker, but I would love to be proven wrong with examples of properly certified, robust equipment in that price range!
« Last Edit: March 20, 2021, 03:09:54 pm by drussell »
 

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Re: Do I trust this breaker?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2021, 03:10:58 pm »
I wish people would stop perpetuating the idea that thing is mislabeled. It is not, it is a plain and simple fake.

Why is that?

Do you not believe that DIN-rail mounted non-fusible disconnect switches exist?   :-//

Uhm, there's at least three in my house. I know they exist. That's not one of them. I find it quite unlikely that the internal construction and 'contacts' would comply with IEC 60947-3 or any other applicable standard, certainly not to AC22A or AC23A.

It's a fake, not a labelling accident.

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Also, a genuine 3-pole MCB can be had for about $10 in single quantity..

Really?  Where?

Personally, I don't think I would trust any $10 three-phase circuit breaker, but I would love to be proven wrong with examples of properly certified, robust equipment in that price range!

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CPB1020C3.html

That's before any trade or quantity discounts, and they're probably not the cheapest around. MCBs are extremely cheap to make, thanks in great part to the economy of scale. Which is why the companies making them are so set on forcing slight safety improvements into the regulations at a 10-200x increase in price..
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Re: Do I trust this breaker?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2021, 03:26:35 pm »
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There is a rule in the UK that only breakers from the same manufacturer as the consumer unit (panel) may be fitted.
Not quite what the regs actually say is
 
536.4.203 Devices and components used in Consumer Units, Distribution Boards etc. must only be those that have been declared suitable for that purpose by the manufacturer of the assemble
 

 


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