Hello people,
I am trying to diversify my collection of old stuff. I decided that having 40/45 old scopes was nice, but opening my mind to other types of TE would bring diversity and spice in my collection.
So since I like the early days of programmable chips, EPROMs, PROMs, GAL/PAL etc.... I thought it would be fitting to get a vintage / period programmer to go with these chips, if an opportunity arose.
Such an opportunity just arose the other day, on my local ad site Leboncoin.fr. A big ass programmer for only 20 Euros + as much for shipping... it's a boat anchor.
Was very filthy, gave it a good clean last night and took it apart, played with it.
- It's branded " Micropross " ... made in France here, says the plaque at the back.
- Model " ROM 3000U "
- Made in early 1987 from the date codes I could find on chips. Some chips are dated 1984....
- It's got a removable programming fixture. The one that came with my unit as you can see is a 40 pin DIL ZIF socket.
- The black rectangle above the fixture is a piece of ESD foam, nice touch. Somehow the foam is still presentable up close, and not 100% turned to dust. As long as I don't touch it, it's fine...
- It's got two serial ports at the back , DB25, for I/Os.
- Has a floppy drive ! Makes it look expensive !
It's got a built-in computer and tries to boot from the floppy at power up (it was supplied with a disk labeled "System Disk", albeit written in French) , so could technically be stand alone I guess... but it can't because there is no user interface on this thing at all. Well there is a buzzer and a PowerON LED, but other than that.... no display or keypad to speak of, at all.
The floppy looks like it's a backup copy, not the original, as you can see the label looks nice/computer generated, but it's applied on some generic Verbatim floppy. I tried to read the floppy on my vintage MS-DOS computer, but it says the disk is not formatted, or at least not formatted for a PC...
which I guess makes sense ? I mean the computer in this programmer is very low power, MIPS and ROM size wise, so I guess it can make sense that the designers came with a custom formatting and file format, bare bone, that would require very low CPU grunt and code size.
So I think I could do some more work... maybe I could try to do a binary dump of the disk and see if I can see "patterns" in it, hell maybe decode some ASCII text in there ! That would be fun.
So I guess it definitely requires to be connected via serial port to some desktop computer running some software, in order to operate.
I can't find any information about this programmer on Google, never mind software, so it's basically a brick, a big door stop, a boat anchor.
Still, it was so cheap and cute that I bought it anyway just to play with it and tear it down, and the joy of owning it. So that's what I did. I am not disappointed at all in this regard, I very much am happy I bought it. Result below with pics to be spread over multiple message for clarity.
I am writing this thread to document this thing. Given how hard it is to find any info on it, it makes it exotic/rare so worth being exposed I thought, especially since it's quite a substantial piece of gear...
Also I am hoping that people who actually know about this thing, might give me some info about it. Any info is better than none at all....
My hope is that it's not French, but rather Canadian. I mean French stuff is confidential and low volume, there is rarely any information about them, never mind a comprehensive service or user manual or anything really. If it were Canadian, hence more North American, I might caress the hope that like most high-end gear from that part of the world in the '80's, like Tek or HP.. there is decent documentation about it somewhere... somewhere.... but where ?
Thread could also be used to append stuff if I ever try go further with this thing. Like say try to repair the cosmetic damage, do some reverse engineering, or ever find some piece of info about it. I could put everything here, it would then be a one stop shop for other people as well, should anyone on this planet happen to have another one of these...
TEAR DOWNAnyway, now I will post all the pics, sorted by category / theme, with some text to explain what's going on.
First round of pics for this introductory post, let's start with the exterior pics here, and cosmetic damage.
So as I said it's big, really big, and really heavy as well.
Back panel is a still plate. Rest of the enclosure is two halves top and bottom. Very thick, chunky plastic, which I suspect might be reinforced with fiber glass or something. Surface finish is grainy/textured.
At the back we have as I said not much but two DB25 serial port, and a cooling fan, equipped with an air filter luckily, which probably explains why the inside of this thing is kinda spot less, lovely.
It was very dirty and dusty when I got it. Spent 30 minutes cleaning it and rubbing the top with a wet scotch brite pad to remove most of the minor scratches and marks.
Damage :
1) Now looks much better only the very deep scratches are left, and there is one that's huge, very deep and very long... I would rather qualify it as a gouge, or even a trench
it's so deep the it dug into the core of the material, which as yuo can see is brown, which makes the gouge visible from a mile away
2) At the front there is a "grill" that runs all along the edge. Most of it is fake, except where it is not : near the left corner it's an actual grill, provides an exhaust port, the PSU is right behind it. Two "bars" of the grill have been broken/missing. By sheer luck one of them actually ended up inside the device and I stumbled upon it when I tore down the thing. The piece is intact so I could potentially super glue it back into place. I would still be missing the other/second bar, but it looks much better with one missing bar than it does with two.. so better than nothing me think.
3) Seller did pack it properly so it got damaged during transport : the front lower right corner got a big hit, it cracked, starting from the bottom/hidden area, but then propagating towards the front and top of the case, going through the floppy drive bezel then ending up in the bottom left corner of the fixture area. There, the crack ended and led to a chunck of the case being broken, ejected... but I don't have this missing piece sadly. So again one can see the brown material exposed, looks crap. The crack could be super glued I guess. The missing material I do'nt know... either I could fill it with epoxy or something, then paint it, trying to mix a custom colour to match the existing finish as best I can. The texture/grain would be lost but it would still be much improved.
Other possibility is to steal a small chunck of plastic from an inconspicuous area at the bottom of the case, and use that to craft a replacement piece that would fill the hole. This would require good skills to shape the piece just right, but would have the advantage of providing the same colour and surface texture as original.