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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #125 on: June 09, 2024, 12:52:08 pm »
There won't be any problems. Just need to be careful at the connection point of pin 4 and 10k. Do not short to other components.
So you connect one leg of 10k resistor to pin 4. Other leg you connect to generator central pin.
GND of generator to GND of DVM.
Start from small signal level and monitor TP1 with an oscilloscope while increasing the level.
 

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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #126 on: June 09, 2024, 12:59:05 pm »
Please use 1k resistor. 10k is too much.
 

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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #127 on: June 09, 2024, 01:23:06 pm »
Ok, give me some time and I will test it
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #128 on: June 10, 2024, 02:38:56 am »
Please use 1k resistor. 10k is too much.
It looks like a lot of interference, I don't know if the test is valid
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #129 on: June 10, 2024, 06:48:27 am »
I haven't seen the resistor. It should be as close to pin 4 as possible.

The suqare wave signal you see at power on is 50Hz induced interference.
You have to see straight line on the screen before test.

Could you also try 10k resistor.
 
 

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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #130 on: June 10, 2024, 09:15:50 am »
I tested it again.
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #131 on: June 10, 2024, 09:43:53 am »
Well done!

Is it possible to reduce the level to see the clear sinus? If not please use 10k.
 

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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #132 on: June 10, 2024, 09:58:15 am »
Well done!

Is it possible to reduce the level to see the clear sinus? If not please use 10k.

clear sinus?I don't understand what you're saying.What do you need to observe carefully?

Can I change the resistor to 10K and test it again?
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #133 on: June 10, 2024, 10:12:12 am »
Yes.
Now we see clipped signal and I can't calculate amplification factor.
Could you try to set the level to see sinus on your screen without any clipping.

Seems I found out the malfunction reason. The operational amplifier has very high gain.
My Microcap shows the same surprisingly.

 

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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #134 on: June 10, 2024, 10:26:01 am »
Measure the voltage at following points A and B.
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #135 on: June 10, 2024, 11:22:06 am »
10K resistor test video is being uploaded,It may take some time because YouTube is slow.



A:-5.22V
B:-12.57V
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #136 on: June 10, 2024, 11:28:58 am »
Please connect TP1 and point 4.
The indication "700" should disappear.
 

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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #137 on: June 10, 2024, 11:44:09 am »
Please connect TP1 and point 4.
The indication "700" should disappear.
Is this what you mean?
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #138 on: June 10, 2024, 11:52:04 am »
Yes.

Could you also measure the following U203 pins.
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #139 on: June 10, 2024, 12:02:12 pm »
U203?U206??
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #140 on: June 10, 2024, 12:05:25 pm »
Sorry for my mistake (in green).
U207
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #141 on: June 10, 2024, 12:26:51 pm »
Yes.

Could you also measure the following U203 pins.

U203 seems to have been replaced. Please see the serial number.
The voltage is shown in the figure below


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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #142 on: June 10, 2024, 12:32:48 pm »
Good, and also in green. Please see my last picture.
What about TP1 and #4 connection?
 

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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #143 on: June 10, 2024, 12:37:41 pm »
Sorry for my mistake (in green).
U207

U203 and U207 seem to have been replaced manually.
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #144 on: June 10, 2024, 12:39:54 pm »
Good, and also in green. Please see my last picture.
What about TP1 and #4 connection?

Do you mean for me to try connecting TP1
and #4?
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #145 on: June 10, 2024, 12:41:22 pm »
 Yes, as on your picture
 

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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #146 on: June 10, 2024, 12:56:02 pm »
Yes, as on your picture

There is no change after the connection, please watch the video

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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #147 on: June 10, 2024, 01:04:40 pm »
Something wrong here (see the picture)
Please remeasure.
 

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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #148 on: June 10, 2024, 01:20:46 pm »
Something wrong here (see the picture)
Please remeasure.

To avoid errors, I measured the voltage before and after the R240 and R241 resistors.
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Re: Please help, how can I adjust this transistor?
« Reply #149 on: June 10, 2024, 01:43:19 pm »
Perfect!

The last experiment for today.
Please connect TP1 and #4 by clamps and switch on the device.
 


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