Hi siggi, thanks for the reply!
You should start at the beginning by checking the power supply voltages.
That would be the sane and rational place to start, but I didn't start there. Luckily for my self-respect (
), though maybe unluckily for my ease of fixing this, I did check the rails via the side board (A13) and they all matched what was printed on the silkscreen.
The two channels are separate past the CCDs, so if both failed, you likely want to look for common things to the channels. The op amps are probably just doing sample and hold on control voltages, perhaps the DC offset. There will be a way to play with the DAC outputs from the front panel, check the service manual for the details....
Yeah, I'm seeing something now about a "FORCE DAC test to determine if the DAC system can control the PD-OFFSET voltages (PD11, PD13, PD21, and PD23)"; I'll have to look into this some more. Thanks for the tip!
As for the U230 op amp, the manual says:
Common-mode signals are rejected from the trigger signal by the circuitry composed of operational amplifier U230B and associated components. The inverting input of U230B (pin 6) is connected to the common-mode point between +PICK (pin 12) and -PICK (pin 15) of U420. Any common-mode signals present are inverted and applied to a common-mode point between R133 and R235 to cancel the signals from the differential output. A filter network composed of LR421 and a built-in circuit board capacitor reduces trigger noise susceptibility.
(It also says elsewhere about these being used for the triggers, and errors related to the trigger can be related to the op amps. But they're probably fine and I just don't understand quite how they're being used.)
I had tried probing these because at the time it seemed to be the most expedient way to see some kind of signal coming out of the preamplifiers, but really I guess what I need to look at would be the differential outputs, wherever they're hiding. (Unfortunately those big heatsinks and weird packages make it so you can't just probe right at the thing.)
On the bench, you MUST run a fan on the hybrids on the underside of the scope or they may cook. themselves.
Thankfully I did see that warning elsewhere! (I believe it was the thread that you started?) Yeah, lucky for me I did see that warning beforehand and I've been using a small 10" or so fan a couple inches from the main board to keep it cool. I used a temperature probe and it seems like nothing gets over the mid 90 deg. F range or so with this setup.
It won't hurt to re-seat the hybrids, so long as you observe good ESD hygiene, and it may well help.
Duly noted, although I wish the eBay seller who sent me the replacement CCDs had heeded that and packaged them in antistatic bags! I will try re-seating them at some point.
You may also want to check out the TekScopes yahoo forum.
Will do, thanks for the suggestion.
[...] the service manual does have a procedure for identifying whether or not the CCDs or other components are at fault.
I didn't find a complete procedure for this, but I did find some information on using the CAL PATH "special function" to try and isolate the issue as either being on the peak detector/CCD or attenuator/preamp side of things. I removed J156 from A13 to enable the special functions and turned CAL PATH on and the signal did not return to the display, which according to the manual implies that the issue is on the peak detector/CCD side.
I'm noticing as well that I see a garbage signal at 50 microseconds and below. These signals appear as a sort of very narrow pulse train, and the timing between "pulses" appears the same width in terms of horizontal divisions on the 1uS, 2uS, 5uS, 10uS, 20uS, and 50uS scales, really only changing when going down to the nanosecond scales. (Tomorrow when I have a chance I will take a picture to show these signals). Also, I notice intermittent strangeness when trying to adjust the vertical position of both channels A and B: the vertical (DC) offset of either displayed signal
does not move, but weird lines appear sometimes where the pulses are, which
do move up and down. Also, these signals appear the same with CAL PATH on or off and regardless of the attenuation/input coupling settings.
I should note that when the first channel died, I noticed what seemed like a waveform juuust off the edge of the display, but unable to move it back up into view. This sounds like the sort of issue that the service manual talks about with a faulty peak detector (or some related component, I don't really know without studying the manual some more). I noticed that currently the trigger symbol is stuck on the lower part of the display, possibly implying that the displayed signal (whatever might be there) is clipped negative.
I'll have to read up on the role of the peak detectors and testing those with the FORCE DAC functionality. Also, possibly acquiring a DC PSU to perform the EXT CAL routine.