Tektronix TDS5054B: Record Length Option: Solved!

[calibrationfixture]

Hi Ko,

Maybe you allready found a solution. Nevertheless coping with the new information a friend of mine has created, I hope, working License Keys for your TDS6154C B010492 Scope. With respectively 16, 18 and 20 F's these are:

X9SNA-4JU52-YGR8H-85GAZ-PSQKT-FUQKW-D
79A6A-4KV54-WSRHD-L3CN7-F5LPZ-B8NB9-5E
FYSKA-L2CMS-YNA9E-5RJHT-KHQXK-KGSKH-8XKB

18 and 20 F's could be too much. In that case you get too many: App XX Avail: not installed. This is no problem for the smooth working of the other installed/enabled ones.

Success,

Calibrationfixture

 

[Ko]

I have confirmed that your code can activate the options.
I am very happy to use the options.
Thank you very much.

[nicnac117]

Hi CF,
I just received a TDS5104 Serial No B020422 today . I spent all day getting it repaired and upgrading the memory and hard drive . It is now working well and calibrates properly . I would now like to enable all options if possible . Unfortunately i have never used Python etc . Could you take the time to coach me on what I need to do ?. Nick

[calibrationfixture]

Hi nicnac117,

For your TDS5104, SN B020422 with Maximum Memory (2M) and all possible Options (14 F's) it is:

PS C:\Users\?\?\Python\tek-ssc-master\tek-ssc-master> C:\Python27\python .\gen.py TDS5104 B020422 0644FFFFFFFFFFFFFF
PHQWL-LHDZF-P5UCD-HFP4L-SNVSR-QJVE

Sometimes you must install the latest Scope Application Software compatible with your MB and or Option Software from the Option Disk to make them work.

Enjoy,

Calibrationfixture

[nicnac117]

Thanks a  million Cf. Applied this this morning and it works great . i must get into this python thing . Cheers!

[nicnac117]

Hi again CF ,
Going to have a go at figuring this out Python . My question is what do I need as well as Python2.7? . Are there other libraries etc that need to be in same folder etc . Windows or ubuntu ?/?? any advice appreciated.
I have another  TDS 5104 and a VM 5000 to enable .

[calibrationfixture]

Hi nicnac117,

You need the Program(s):
- gen.py and
- validate.py

The last is used to split out the Option Mask for existing Keys. Not so relevant because we can use F's.

Both can be found at:

https://0xacab.org/mitic/tek-ssc/tree/master

Success,

Calibrationfixture


 

[ivi_yak]

do you have, maybe, Option Disk copy?

[ivi_yak]

Hi, sorry for buzzering
could pls help me with tds5104, I'm trying to understand is a good scope to buy for data analysis.

For example, accumulate rise time parameter to file and export it for further analysis.
How glitchy is the scope itself?
Does it support flash drives?

[coromonadalix]

@ ivi_yak   you're dealing with old technologies,   not sure they are appropriate for your needs,   and parts are hard to get

for any purchase   request an spc tests screenshot .. if not  move away, unless you snatch a good deal

upgrading ram, and a motherboard can or could be easy, but the scope software is outdated, you can put an ssd, and flash drive = usb key you mean ??  you have some limits

if you want to do spi, serial  etc ... better go with new technology like Siglent Rigol ... who can be freely upgraded ...

[colorburst]

ivi_yak,

The TDS5104 is good value if you need 1GHz BW in my opinion; the UI is a bit clunky but works fine. Automatic measurements such as risetime are supported; for more complex analysis needs, you can export waveforms to a file or control the scope via GPIB.

Flash drives are supported as the scope contains a regular PC motherboard and runs Windows 2000 or ME. The USB ports on the back are hard to reach though, so I prefer LAN connection for file transfer instead.

Part availability is on par with modern equipment, the custom hardware is difficult to replace indeed. The good news is that it's rarely a problem and will be obvious from SPC and self-test results. Any issues tend to be with the PC motherboard, the hard drive, or the power supply, all of which are commonly available or otherwise easy to deal with. Upgrades are possible, with some caveats, but not really worthwhile.

[nicnac117]

Ok .
 I have looked through this tread about the key generation and have downloaded the gen.py etc from the site and installed python 2.7 on a windows with PowerShell. Could somebody here who knows how the  use gen.py give an "idiots guide "as to what to do next ?A worked example would be great .

[calibrationfixture]

Hi nicnac117,

I created a Python Map in my Documents, in which I put both tek-ssc-master files: gen.py and validate.py.

In the Windows cmd (command) shell I use cd (change directory) to get into the right path.

cd Documents

and then (after the prompt)

cd Python

etc. etc. (see the scripts in this thread).

Success,

Calibrationfixture

[calibrationfixture]

Hi ivi_yak,

Regarding your Option Disk Request. In the past you could download this (063-3478-25) from TiN's (xdevs.com) webside. I should ask him for it.

Success,

Calibrationfixture

[coromonadalix]

register fror free at xdev's  you'll be able to get it again

xdev site was abused and now they break this by registration, and once in a while they monitor ...

[nicnac117]

Thank you CF for your info ...and patience.
As of this post I still haven't got the key gen to work . 
I have as attached a
TDS5104 Serial B020296
VM5000(TDS5104B) Serial B022889
Which i would love to fully enable.
Maybe if you get the time you could work your magic on keys for both .
I have no problems fixing these scopes but the python gen eludes me .

[calibrationfixture]

Hi nicnac117,

No problem to create Option Keys.

For the TDS5104 it is:

PZPXQ-QZM9F-7KVUD-VFK8A-SRVWR-LNTE

And for the TDS5104B it should be:

P9F7Z-895MU-6J3E3-MKKR2-SRUXR-JQTA

Option Mask: 0444+14 F's.

But when I use validate.py to split out the Option Mask of this particular VM5000/TDS5104B I got the following Mask: 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00. In this case 14 F's seems too little (the 3 on the 28 th position).

Thus with the maximum number of F's (32) it is:

XTZKV-J8CV2-QLNBU-GTG2R-F2MJZ-H2QF2-5JZH2-QF25J-ZH2A
 
Enjoy,

Calibrationfixture

[nicnac117]

much appreciated, Thank you
Is the option data stored in an eeprom on the acquisition board? Just wonderoing as its not on the hard drive as reloading everything doesnt wipe the installed options .

[calibrationfixture]

Hello again,

Page 5 (U1320) of attached Document. And you must read this:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/tds5104-cant-find-cal-data-during-starting-scope-application/

Calibrationfixture

[calibrationfixture]

Hi nicnac117,

I assume the generated TDS5104B Option Key enables all options (including the VM5000 HD and SD Video Option). Nevertheless I noticed a CRC Mismatch when using validate.py on this newly generated Option Key. With 28 F's'and 30 F's there is no CRC Mismatch.

Option Key based on 28 F's:

F3ZPV-28UDS-Q6LLY-CDLWK-PDR6B-MWAPD-96BMW-APD96

Option Key based on 30 F's:

P3H7V-29VDU-N2WS3-VFK9A-SRVWR-LNTWM-C7HJ8-BSRDW-RC

I assume both will also work with shorter lists of App available, but not installed (I have no TDS5104B on hand).

Calibrationfixture

 

[nicnac117]

Hi again .........
I tried all keys for the VM5000 you sent and they all work for all the application /options I have installed from the disc available . They all keep the VM5000HD&SDVideo and the 3M 16 meg enabled so all good .
The first one with 14f s works and stops at 70 available
the 28fs stops at 127apps available not installed
the 30fs stops at 135apps available not installed .
So It would appear that the 14fs takes in all apps up to 70 which includes the last live app i have at entry 69 "Protocol trigger and decode".
I can tabulate all the entries for each key if that is helpful  .
for those with the TDS5104 non B most of this can be enabled including the VM5000 software available as a trial of 5 goes on tek website . Once you have enabled key and the 5 goes run out the next time it starts ok with no trial warning .