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Offline JuJu504Topic starter

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Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« on: March 13, 2019, 03:05:50 am »
I need help identifying this resistor off a 1976 era pcb.
 

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2019, 03:09:39 am »
« Last Edit: March 13, 2019, 03:11:35 am by Mr.B »
Where are we going, and why are we in a handbasket?
 

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2019, 03:46:39 am »
The hardest thing about figuring this out is the fact that it is a 5 band resistor and no 5 band resistor has a 5th band that is yellow. There is no yellow tolerance for the 5th band. 
 

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2019, 03:54:36 am »
The hardest thing about figuring this out is the fact that it is a 5 band resistor and no 5 band resistor has a 5th band that is yellow. There is no yellow tolerance for the 5th band.

Apparently it was used as an indication of some extra standard, and I've heard the yellow 5th band means it's "high reliability".  Maybe somewhat standard of a marking for the time, but now mostly lost to time as the technologies to make and rate them have changed a lot.  The carbon resistors from that era are anything but particularly stable, and have often drifted up as much as 10% or so in value.


FWIW, I don't think 25ppm is anywhere close to correct, carbon resistors are going to be hundreds, if not a thousand ppm/C drift.
 

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2019, 04:00:56 am »
 

Offline JuJu504Topic starter

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2019, 04:18:56 am »
From this web site:  https://www.eeweb.com/tools/5-band-resistor-calculator

   
Thanks MarkF that's exactly what I was looking for.
 

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2019, 05:03:16 am »
From this web site:  https://www.eeweb.com/tools/5-band-resistor-calculator

   
any idea of the voltage of that ceramic disc cap in the same photo? This project has been on the shelf for months now due to me not being able to identify the components so that I can replace them. I appreciate the help alot. Thank you
 

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2019, 05:18:30 am »
Probably 50 or 100v. What sort of voltages do you expect in the circuit?
No harm in uprating it to be safe amyway.
Where does all this test equipment keep coming from?!?

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2019, 12:38:30 pm »

CRAPPY marked CAP.

Z5U = -10C up to 85C 
  about 20% tolerance  all specs

But by size I would risk at least 400V
The valid codes for this type are messy - crappy fab.

Paul
 

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2019, 12:56:39 pm »
It appears to be a 47 ohm in series with a .05uF 500V cap that would typically be used across a switched inductive load to absorb spikes. The values would be non-critical and I'd doubt they could be a problem.

 

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2019, 04:40:06 pm »
It appears to be a 47 ohm in series with a .05uF 500V cap that would typically be used across a switched inductive load to absorb spikes. The values would be non-critical and I'd doubt they could be a problem.
the resistor and capasitor are soldered to a 12vdc relay. This is a circuit board out of a 1976 Mills Bell o matic token vendor slot machine. Here is photos of the whole pcb
 

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2019, 05:02:51 pm »
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"the resistor and capasitor are soldered to a 12vdc relay."

Across switch or relay contacts, a typical snubber circuit. It was an afterthought and just soldered on the back of the board. Probably to absorb some noise generated by switching contacts.
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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2019, 06:22:26 pm »
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"the resistor and capasitor are soldered to a 12vdc relay."

Across switch or relay contacts, a typical snubber circuit. It was an afterthought and just soldered on the back of the board. Probably to absorb some noise generated by switching contacts.
thank everyone so much for the help. Now I can finally get my mills slot machine working again!
 

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2019, 06:26:27 pm »
Looks like a really bad solder connection where the resistor meets the cap.
 

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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2019, 07:57:26 pm »
Looks like a really bad solder connection where the resistor meets the cap.
that's actually a photo of the good cap and resistor. The other side is the problem its burned up. See attached photo
 
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Re: Can someone help me identify this vintage resistor
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2019, 04:34:53 pm »
My antique Mills token vendor slot machine is back up and running. My sincerest thanks to everybody who helped out. I appreciate it. I ended up replacing the ceramic disc cap with a NOS mylar 0.5μf 600Volt cap and a 47ohm resistor that I had on hand. Again everybody thank you
 


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