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Offline ataradov

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2015, 11:14:26 pm »
Of course not. This quote alone should be enough:
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I live in Poland and im 24 years old, because of the lack of regular, good paid job I live thanks to casual jobs but the income is misery.
If you are 24 and can't find a job, then you are probably not qualified to invent things. Especially things that go against laws of physics.
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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2015, 11:15:38 pm »
well the link certainly doesnt.... (Wait, my browser is out of date!?!?!)
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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2015, 11:20:26 pm »
Also, go beg for money and rely on other fools to provide you with electricity and Internet.
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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2015, 11:21:18 pm »
I'm sorry for his supposedly poor economic situation, but a wind turbine..powered by a fan? Come on it's physics 101

It's true however that I've witnessed projects of vertical, home sized wind turbines, with a bloody electric motor underneath to spin it. Why? Because they were so poorly designed that they would frequently stand still. But with a motor, hey, you can show everybody you're "eco" 365 days a year!
 

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2015, 11:25:30 pm »
Why doesn't he just plug a power strip into itself?  If he gets one with 6 outlets, then he'll only use one and have enough outlets to power 5 more devices.  He could even plug in 5 other power strips and then have enough power to run 30 devices.

Come on, Poland Dude -- use your noodle.   :rant:
 

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2015, 12:19:53 am »
Why doesn't he just plug a power strip into itself?  If he gets one with 6 outlets, then he'll only use one and have enough outlets to power 5 more devices.  He could even plug in 5 other power strips and then have enough power to run 30 devices.

Come on, Poland Dude -- use your noodle.   :rant:

There you go, I'm going to use that one.  :-DD
 

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2015, 12:45:47 am »
will it work dudes?
No.
When an electric generator is producing power it gets harder to rotate.
Any power it produces will be completely used by the fans, and because of generator and motor losses even that power will not be enough. If everything was perfect, i.e. zero friction, 100% efficient turbines, motors and generators, then there would be =just= enough power only to run itself and nothing else. It would use =all= of it's power on itself. In the real world it is worse than that. It's all part of "The Cussedness of Nature" -> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=5328820&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fiel5%2F5327115%2F5328729%2F05328820.pdf%3Farnumber%3D5328820
 

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2015, 01:16:10 am »
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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2015, 02:23:53 am »
If you are 24 and can't find a job, then you are probably not qualified to invent things.
Strange statement, since looking for a job has nothing to do with invention-simply some people are not creative enougth, so... make general conclusions like this   :blah:

Anyway, from mechanical point of view I'd rather think not in the therms if this will work or not, but... what efficiency it could be... If smaller than Savonius wind turbine than forget about it or make it only as weird modern art instalation on your own yard, but ensure that neighbours will not have to looks at this  :wtf:

I'm more concerned about this "IdiotGOGO" great invention creator stupid staements like this one from linked campagin page, sonce yes wind farms should be always built FAR AWAY more than human not can only hear them BUT also can SEE them, because of looking at rotating white wind turbine wings while sitting in the garden  can make you crazy-brains are made in a way that notice any movement, so of course many inverstors and government regulations are a illusion and those bloody huge wind turbines destroys beuty of nature and wildlife:
Wind Farms Destroy the Environment 1: WILDLIFE DESTRUCTION

He doesn't know what he's talking about and doesn't know how human brain works  :rant:
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Opponents of wind energy say That, turbins are source of noise. Indeed work in close neighborhood of windmill can be annoying but always wind farms are builded in reasonable distances from houses, so the noise is not harmfull for people.
Endless examples can be found that "green" energy destoys human lifes while those bloody huge wind turbines are build to close to human houses, expecially in Poland...  :rant:



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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2015, 04:20:50 pm »
Everytime I see misuse of the words "motor" and "engine", it makes me cringe.  A "motor" is *not* the same as an "engine", and visa-versa.

Mixing these two terms up is scientifically wrong; can be confusing when communicating ideas; and makes you sound ignorant.  Please look up the scientific terms of these two words, and study their definitions.

I think you are reaching here. A motor a kind of engine. For most purposes the words motor and engine are interchangeable (cars have engines, yet "car" is an abbreviation of "motor car").
 

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2015, 11:12:21 pm »
I would call an engine a method, arrangement or device for achieving a stated purpose or outcome. Not necessarily mechanical e.g. A software algorithm. An engineer devises engines for various purposes. A motor is an engine producing an outcome that moves.
 

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2015, 11:57:00 pm »
I would call an engine a method, arrangement or device for achieving a stated purpose or outcome. Not necessarily mechanical e.g. A software algorithm. An engineer devises engines for various purposes. A motor is an engine producing an outcome that moves.

When you use engine in a non-mechanical context you are using the word as a metaphor.

To keep it simple, here is what an on-line dictionary says:

engine: a machine with moving parts that converts power into motion

motor: a machine, especially one powered by electricity or internal combustion, that supplies motive power for a vehicle or for some other device with moving parts

In both cases you have something mechanical that converts power into motion.
 

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2015, 12:48:57 am »
To keep it simple, here is what an on-line dictionary says:

engine: a machine with moving parts that converts power into motion

motor: a machine, especially one powered by electricity or internal combustion, that supplies motive power for a vehicle or for some other device with moving parts

They sound pretty synonymous to me...
 

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2015, 02:35:49 am »
They sound pretty synonymous to me...
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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2015, 07:35:22 am »
Everytime I see misuse of the words "motor" and "engine", it makes me cringe.  A "motor" is *not* the same as an "engine", and visa-versa.


About misuses and mispellings, it's vice-versa ;)
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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2015, 07:54:35 am »
This is pretty deep in the semantical weeds, but it seems that the divide between "engine" and "motor" is historical and complex. A dinghy uses an outboard motor, but a coal-fired train uses a steam engine. A floppy disk drive has a stepper motor, but a CPU may have a crypto engine. The usage is a matter of emphasis: when we emphasize that something is a source of mechanical energy, we call it a motor (cf. motive force). When the emphasis is on a device being a finely-tuned machine, we call it an engine.
 

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2015, 09:21:13 am »
I suspect the whole engine/motor thing is simply a translation issue, a lot of languages don't make a distinction.
 

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2015, 03:34:42 pm »
I think the funny part here is that we have a crowdsource campaign for obvious snake oil, yet all we can focus on is the snake oil salesman's choice of a single word.      :-DD

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2015, 04:50:24 pm »
I think the funny part here is that we have a crowdsource campaign for obvious snake oil, yet all we can focus on is the snake oil salesman's choice of a single word.      :-DD

:popcorn:

Its just as commercially viable as uBeam .....  :-+
 

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2015, 05:39:48 pm »
Everytime I see misuse of the words "motor" and "engine", it makes me cringe.  A "motor" is *not* the same as an "engine", and visa-versa.


About misuses and mispellings, it's vice-versa ;)

It's "misspellings" :)
 

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Re: one electric engine powers 3 wind turbines?
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2015, 08:04:43 am »
Everytime I see misuse of the words "motor" and "engine", it makes me cringe.  A "motor" is *not* the same as an "engine", and visa-versa.


About misuses and mispellings, it's vice-versa ;)

It's "misspellings" :)

Oh, no, your message has no more errors to be corrected, you broke the chain ;)
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