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Offline CopperConeTopic starter

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liquid nails silicone for electronics?
« on: December 01, 2017, 02:41:54 am »
Is liquid nails silicone ok for electronics?

It contains polysilane, and it does not have a vinegar odor. I like it because its at home depot.

Things like GE Silicone 2 emit acetic acid on curing...
 

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Re: liquid nails silicone for electronics?
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2017, 07:09:26 am »
If the manufacturer doesn't specify non corrosive in their data why take a chance on an unknown?

You can get neutral cure silicones from a lot of the DIY/home depot like places, Dow corning 799 is one example of a non corrosive silicone, GE SSG4000 is another and there will be many others.

 
 

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Re: liquid nails silicone for electronics?
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2017, 10:12:25 am »
Uhhh, hmm, http://products.ppgac.com/products/msds?culture=en-US&productcode=00407650 says it's based on an oxime formulation.  Which will hydrolyze to something that'll corrode electronics, I think (if not ammonia, then hydroxylamine or something along those lines).

The ones based on alcohols, I think, are the least corrosive?  And there are many more carefully crafted formulations (that I don't really know about) that are also safe to use.  And of course two-part mixes, if you happen to have them.

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Re: liquid nails silicone for electronics?
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2017, 10:41:31 am »

I like to use flowable silicone sealants because they give a smooth finish. One such product is Permatex Flowable Silicone Windshield & Glass Sealer.
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Re: liquid nails silicone for electronics?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2017, 12:08:21 am »
The "Sensor Safe" RTV is non-acidic and should be fine.

That said, I've used ordinary clear RTV on electronics before and despite the acid I never had any problems with corrosion. That may not always be the case though, especially if the device you use it on is enclosed and collects the vapor.
 

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Re: liquid nails silicone for electronics?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2017, 02:20:04 am »
I once had a control board returned from a customer, who glued the board into its enclosure with a heavy layer of acetic acid based silicone.  The underside was covered in white corrosion. :palm: (Probably mixed lead and tin basic acetates.)

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Re: liquid nails silicone for electronics?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2017, 12:14:46 am »
Yeah that sounds like asking for trouble. I've never used it in huge quantities in electronics, just a blob here and there to stick something together or insulate a HV connection.
 


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