Author Topic: Lashing up a HV Probe  (Read 2202 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline iconTopic starter

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 246
Lashing up a HV Probe
« on: October 10, 2012, 03:28:20 pm »
Hi

I want to check a 1700V supply on a scope I'm trying to fix. I have it in mind to make a chain of nine 10Meg (250V-rated) resistors. I could then rely on the 10Meg input impedance of the Fluke 87V to give me a 10:1 divider, or I could add another 10Meg resistor and tap off at that point to the meter and double(-ish) the figure shown on the meter (the 'bottom' of the chain going to ground, obviously)

Other than the obvious ("don't"), any thoughts either way?

Cheers
John
 

Offline Neilm

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1551
  • Country: gb
Re: Lashing up a HV Probe
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2012, 08:25:52 pm »
Is this a DC signal or AC signal?

If it is AC then you may end up with some weird issues. Capacitances that are too small to worry about normally can turn up and cause all sorts of problems.

I would add the extra 10Meg resistor as it will mean that if the meter became disconnected accidentally, nothing would be damaged or become dangerously charged.

Yours

Neil
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Tesla referral code https://ts.la/neil53539
 

Offline SeanB

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 16356
  • Country: za
Re: Lashing up a HV Probe
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 08:41:03 pm »
Do not trust the quoted meter impedance. Use a 1M resistor and 10 series resistors instead, then you will only read roughlt 1/100 of the input voltage. The 9 series resistors must be cleaned after soldering with IPA and dried and baked to remove moisture, then encapsulated in high voltage silicone to prevent flashover.
 

Offline iconTopic starter

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 246
Re: Lashing up a HV Probe
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2012, 09:18:44 pm »
Hi

Thanks for the advice - I should have said, it's 1700V DC, though I might just check for 50Hz ripple on a scope. I will go for the 1/100 idea. Can metal film resistors withstand 100degC for a reasonable period of time without changing value significantly,  I wonder?

Cheers
John
 

Offline TriodeTiger

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 199
  • Country: ca
Re: Lashing up a HV Probe
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2012, 10:07:12 pm »
Can metal film resistors withstand 100degC for a reasonable period of time without changing value significantly,  I wonder?

That's what ppm/c (or was it temperature coefficient) figures are there for!

Where are your 100C calculations coming from? Why does it need to be this hot? Seeing only 1.7kV on a 10meg 1/2W metal film resistor would be within its rating.

« Last Edit: October 10, 2012, 10:12:14 pm by MmCoffee »
"Yes, I have deliberately traded off robustness for the sake of having knobs." - Dave Jones.
 

Offline iconTopic starter

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 246
Re: Lashing up a HV Probe
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2012, 07:03:29 am »

Where are your 100C calculations coming from?

From the boiling point of water.

John
 


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf