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Offline qwaarjetTopic starter

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High speed differential connectors
« on: May 07, 2014, 12:30:21 am »
I have project that requires me to pass a 200mhz differential signal through a bulkhead (HOTLink II). The nominal impedance for the diff pair is 100 ohms and will need to travel ~3m. I have complete control over termination style and cable type; I was thinking either a rj45 cat7 bulked or possibly two 50ohm RF connectors like sma or similar and use 1 for each side of the diff signal. I would like to keep the cost relatively low <$100 ( connectors and cable) so twinax was out. Any better suggestions or just go with cat7?
 

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Re: High speed differential connectors
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2014, 06:23:35 am »
CAT 7 seems overkill since CAT 5e is rated to 350MHz, unless there's some other characteristic in CAT 7 that you're needing.
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Re: High speed differential connectors
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2014, 10:29:36 am »
CAT 7 seems overkill since CAT 5e is rated to 350MHz, unless there's some other characteristic in CAT 7 that you're needing.

If the frequency of the differential signal is 200 MHz then it contains frequency components way way higher than 200 MHz, since it is not a sine wave.
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Re: High speed differential connectors
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2014, 11:11:40 am »
Hotlink - there's a blast from the past.

I would look at CAT5 and upwards.  3M isn't that far - test it.  Also, you could consider USB3 connectors and cables, just use the D+/D- lines.
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Re: High speed differential connectors
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2014, 11:37:15 pm »
Cat5e is only rated to 100 MHz, and used with signaling rates of 125 MS/s in fast and gigabit ethernet.  For a 3 meter run it will probably work fine at 200 MHz -- the loss is just too high for long runs like ethernet is expected to work over (typically 100 meters).  Cat 6 works for 250 MHz, Cat6a is rated for up to 500 MHz.  Cat 5 and 6 are normally unshielded, but also available shielded.  Cat 6a is always shielded.
 

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Re: High speed differential connectors
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2014, 03:08:07 am »
Just 3 meters? You probably can re-purpose an hdmi shielded twisted pair (100 Ohm).

A network cable (even Cat 5 shielded) might do, after all 1000 Base T only requires Cat 5 for pretty long lengths so 3 meters should be fine too since it's rated for 100 meters, and it's 100 Ohm rated as well.
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Re: High speed differential connectors
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2014, 09:12:13 pm »
Just to keep in mind how well balanced transmissions line works, here is a photo from inside of a Tektronix 100 MHz oscilloscope showing a pair of 100 MHz differential transmission lines.  Normally the wires are attached inside the connectors but I had to resolder them.
 


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