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Offline PeterFWTopic starter

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Generating "click sounds" for a geiger counter
« on: May 21, 2016, 04:54:03 pm »
Hello!
Bare with me, this is a stupid question.
The obvious answer is, use short modulated pulses and a regular transducer.
And, that is indeed what im dooing.

But that does not tickle the 10 year old in me, who would like the thing to sound like the cool gadgets you see in the movies.
These "chirps" just do not sound right.

How could i create nice and, more important, loud "click" for my small and battery driven geiger counter?
I do not have much space left in the case, size is a concern.
The signal is provided by a microcontroller.

Small electromechanical SMD transducers are not loud enough. Driven outside their rating they get to a decent SPL but that will only work with low CPM, otherwise they will burn out.

A *big* piezo disc, driven through a h-bridge and enough voltage will work too but requires a lot of circuitry, a push-pull driver works too but is not as loud. At least that is what my tests showed.

A cheap speaker requires a sealed enclosure and is fairly big, but it does produce a nice sound

There can not be much left, anybody else got an idea? :)

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Peter
 

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Re: Generating "click sounds" for a geiger counter
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2016, 05:10:16 pm »
Bare with me

I'm sure there's a a double-meaning in there somewhere. :o

There can not be much left, anybody else got an idea? :)

Tablet speakers? They're very thin and quite loud.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=tablet+speaker+replacement&_frs=1

You can also pull decent-but-small speakers out of old laptops. They generally come in sealed enclosures so they work in open air.

I've got a collection of them somewhere from when somebody let me loose on a big pile of dead laptops for ten minutes (hint: grab the speakers and the batteries!)
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Re: Generating "click sounds" for a geiger counter
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2016, 06:47:53 pm »
One of the cheap UPs, in the 50 cent range, storing a sampled wave table
click sound and fed to a DAC. Followed by a simple transistor amp should do
the trick.

http://soundbible.com/tags-click.html

http://www.partnersinrhyme.com/pir/PIRsfx.shtml


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Re: Generating "click sounds" for a geiger counter
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2016, 09:09:06 pm »
The result of that project sounds pretty close: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Make-A-Fake-Geiger-Counter/

Bare with me
I'm sure there's a a double-meaning in there somewhere. :o

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Re: Generating "click sounds" for a geiger counter
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2016, 03:48:16 pm »

micro driven 555 oscillator maybe?

also i there is cmos machine gun sound generator, that could be tweaked for woodpecker like tweats-http://sbatangrokok.blogspot.in/2012/02/all-in-one-for-fun-circuit.html
 

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Re: Generating "click sounds" for a geiger counter
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2016, 04:22:59 pm »
One of the cheap UPs, in the 50 cent range, storing a sampled wave table
click sound and fed to a DAC. Followed by a simple transistor amp should do
the trick.
Why a wave table? Best sounding click (and similar to real Geiger counter events) should be a Dirac pulse. You can use a pin of the microcontroller and a on/off transistor to power a speaker. Can't be short enough, but might need a few microseconds for the speaker coil, so one click = pin on, small delay, pin off.

With the Audacity draw tool I created a click, an 44.1 kHz audio file of 1 s with one sample at maximum amplitude in the middle: http://www.frank-buss.de/tmp/click.wav
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