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Offline David Hess

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Re: DC motor constant speed regardless of load
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2024, 03:44:29 pm »
Model trains take great advantage of this to operate at very low speeds without stalling.

Have you seen the gearbox on model trains? Not exactly simple. Also, the motors have a 5-pole armature, not just 3-pole.

But you can compare the difference in operation between constant low DC voltage and high voltage with a low duty cycle.  The later can operate at much lower speeds without getting stuck.

A long time ago, model train power supplies used to have a switch to allow half-wave rectification which had a similar advantage at lower speeds.  Low duty cycle PWM is even better.
 

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Re: DC motor constant speed regardless of load
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2024, 05:02:29 pm »
You keep flogging a dead horse. You cannot ignore commutation cogging at low speeds. Period.
 

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Re: DC motor constant speed regardless of load
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2024, 06:44:12 pm »
You keep flogging a dead horse. You cannot ignore commutation cogging at low speeds. Period.

Sure you can.  I gave an example where that is exactly what was done, and the only change was DC to low duty cycle PWM.
 

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Re: DC motor constant speed regardless of load
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2024, 07:31:47 pm »
Stuck record here:

1/ Don't use a stepper motor.  Too much noise, too much torsional vibration, and it needs a special controller.

2/ Use a brushed DC motor with a gearbox and a straightforward PWM speed controller.

The gearbox is essential - it allows the motor to run at a speed where cogging is irrelevant. Something like the innards of a cheap cordless screwdriver might be ideal. Possibly a bit slow. If so, check out Benta's recommendation for a cheap geared motor. If you've got a variable voltage bench PSU, you can run that motor off that. It's what I do.
 


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