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Offline JohnnyBergTopic starter

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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2015, 01:33:46 pm »
But....

Mmmm, LTZ1000A, LTC2057, ADA4077, ect. i wil remove them from my stock parts.

Yeah .. I know. My first job was at a compagny that was in the Dutch AEX. So no LTZ1000A etc, because of the risk that production would stop, because there where no parts.

Not as important for a small compagny, but hey .. I'm brainwashed  ;)


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And my Agilent 3458A, i will throw him out of the window.  :-DD

Where do you live, and when are you throwing it out?  :-DD
 

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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2015, 08:06:22 pm »
Are these new ones available yet?
 

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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2015, 08:33:19 pm »
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are these new ones available yet?

They have been send to the pcb fab. a week ago. I'll expect them next week.
They have to be assembled then, and 1000 hrs aging.

Besides this reference, I also have a new low cost version coming, for testing/calibrating multimeters up to 4000 counts.
It will have a 5.000V output, a 1.000mA current source and 2 precision resistors

And a version with 10.0000V output from 1 9V battery.

Top of the range will be the "ovenized" version. It has a temperature controlled oven that keeps the reference chip at a constant temperature of 54°C

Each reference will come with a datasheet and a calibration sheet.
I will offer calibration service as well, and one time free calibration with this one.

At this moment I am working on gear to characterize the references. I build a 10.000x (80dB) preamp to measure noise. That was a challenge on his own :P
Result gives very nice pictures:

scale is 1.5 µV/div, I am quite happy with 5.88µV pp noise  :)

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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2015, 08:40:29 pm »
Hello,

minimum measurement time for 1/f noise (0.1..10Hz) is 10 seconds. So your 200ms (per div?) scale limits lower bandwidth.

And it seems that there is no upper bandwidth limit (10 Hz) in your amplifier. There are much higher frequencies with large amplitude within the signal.

With best regards

Andreas
 

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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2015, 08:52:49 pm »
minimum measurement time for 1/f noise (0.1..10Hz) is 10 seconds. So your 200ms (per div?) scale limits lower bandwidth.

And it seems that there is no upper bandwidth limit (10 Hz) in your amplifier. There are much higher frequencies with large amplitude within the signal.

I know ..  :-[

I am still struggling with the filtering in the preamp. And I'm fighting with LTSpice to get the right values.
Here's the first stage:

 

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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2015, 09:03:30 pm »
Hi JohnnyBerg,

What about presenting your schematic of the filter...

Let us help  :-DD

Kind regarts,
Bram
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Offline JohnnyBergTopic starter

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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2015, 09:18:19 pm »
I did a quick and dirty adjustment, now it's more to standard :)



I trying to lay an egg about some kind of noise reduction, but I think 7,26µV pp is not that bad. And just within spec of the REF5025.

I have carefully laid out the new board, and I'm hoping for better results. Grounding was a real pain in the ass!

 

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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2015, 04:08:18 pm »
Got notice that the boards are ready and shipped!

As a service, I got a photo from the shipped boards. Looks exactly like the design  :-DD

 

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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2015, 10:27:16 pm »
Nice pcb :)

Gegroet,
 

Offline JohnnyBergTopic starter

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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2015, 03:15:27 pm »
I ordered 2 batches with PCB's. One express, and one with normal shipment.
And guess what?
I received the normal shipment, and the Express are still in transit.

Anyhow, I can start assembling the first 60 boards .. whow ..





 

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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2015, 03:22:04 pm »
Hi JohnnyBerg,

Tomorrow i will wait next to my mailbox  ;D

Kind regarts,
Blackdog
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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2015, 08:28:54 pm »
Haha .. be patient.

Need to assemble and 1000 hr burn in. This is a bit of work .. who ..
 

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Re: behind the scenes: Working on the B revision voltage standard
« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2015, 08:35:25 pm »
Hi JohnnyBerg,

No problem to burn one in overhere...
The choice is yours, I will be patient:-)

Nice looking circuitboards!

Kind regarts,
Bram
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