Amazing Tesla experiments! Totally new science

[Deco56]

Hi all,

Please check out this amazing work done on this site: http://www.am-innovations.com/category/experiments/experiments-single-wire-currents/

Check the video that is about half way done, around the 30 minute mark are some very unusual and amazing effects that can't be explained with our regular understanding of electronics and physics. Anyone want to try this out themselves or should we just dismiss it as impossible since we already know everything?

[ataradov]

I see classical rotating coils and magnets -> free energy morons -> garbage.

There is no point in investigating the taste of shit with different sauces, it will still taste like shit.

[hexreader]

@OP You posted in the wrong sub-forum

Belongs in "dodgy technology" section, in case somebody mistakenly thinks you are serious.

[Gyro]

I'm not sure the dodgy technology" section existed the last time the OP posted... Over 4 years ago - a very long and tortuous free-energy thread. 

[magic]

33 pages of that

[ChristofferB]

Strange how all dubious scientific setups, like this one, has the same kind of vibe, look and feel to them. The 1930's meters, more wood than any other material, so on. It's hard to describe.

[ataradov]

Free energy is not as profitable as one might expect. So got to save money on equipment and materials

[bd139]

Strange how all dubious scientific setups, like this one, has the same kind of vibe, look and feel to them. The 1930's meters, more wood than any other material, so on. It's hard to describe.

There’s a good English word to describe it: bollocks 

[BU508A]

Strange how all dubious scientific setups, like this one, has the same kind of vibe, look and feel to them. The 1930's meters, more wood than any other material, so on. It's hard to describe.

There’s a good English word to describe it: bollocks 

This "Free energy" stuff is good for only one thing:
learning new english words. 
In this case: bollocks - Schwachsinn in German.   

[mnementh]

Speaking as a true creature of myth and legend... I have to say that entire body of "work" is utter fiction. With a little BS for garnish.

mnem

[med6753]

[Wolfgang]

Hi all,

Please check out this amazing work done on this site: http://www.am-innovations.com/category/experiments/experiments-single-wire-currents/

Check the video that is about half way done, around the 30 minute mark are some very unusual and amazing effects that can't be explained with our regular understanding of electronics and physics. Anyone want to try this out themselves or should we just dismiss it as impossible since we already know everything?

Human stupidity is the largest renewable resource available to mankind.
If all this free energy stuff ever worked why arent these people millionaires, fly to the moon, glow in the dark, ... you name it.
Have you noticed all their lab instruments are powered with *unfree* energy ?
And - last but not least - why on earth do they need YOUR money and support ?

[Cerebus]

Strange how all dubious scientific setups, like this one, has the same kind of vibe, look and feel to them. The 1930's meters, more wood than any other material, so on. It's hard to describe.

Not enough Bakelite for 1930's, more 60s/70s. And all that plywood is rather 60s/70s, in the 30s they'd have used real timber (often pukka Honduras Mahogany).

[mnementh]

Oh, be thankful they're using shit-pine and lauan plywood. We need to save that good stuff for things with some redeeming value, like worldwide Theremin production. 

mnem
 

[Deco56]

It's funny how you all claim to be scientific and objective and then don't even try the experiments out yourselves or do any sort of investigation. The effects shown at the 30 minute mark of the video I referenced is very similar to the effects shown in this video as well: https://youtu.be/3uXL4_Yas2k

At the 22 minute mark.

That's two separate and independent experimenters showing similar effects but let's just dismiss that right? We already know everything about electronics and electricity right guys? Talk about being humble 

So two different experimenters with similar effects shown in both....let me guess must have been some excellent CGI effects?

Why not just say you are lazy and a bunch of know it alls? Wouldn't that be easier than calling bullshit on an experiment you have never done?

No one is claiming free energy here, it's just an anomalous effect shown (same effect) in each video. I thought the scientifically minded would be interested in replicating this? Whats with the prejudice guys?

[ataradov]

You understand that science is not done by watching 20th minute of a youtube video?

If you want to be taken for real, write an article. Describe your experimental setup and observed results. Then you would have a sliver of a chance to be taken seriously. 

All pseudo-science and outright scams operate on poorly shot video. Science works on papers and articles.

[Deco56]

To be clear, these are not my experiments and I dont have a budget right now to attempt them. I would if I could. Cant younjust admit it's an interesting effect? You replied.to my.post within a minute - how did you see what happened in the second video that quickly? Seems like you are just brushing it off without even being curious about it.....why.

Again, no one is claiming free energy here.

As far as a paper or article, you can only get published in peer reviewed literature if the editors of that paper choose to publish you. That sounds like an appeal to authorities.  Experiments are a much more free process and involves no one outside opinion to agree to perform that experiment

[ataradov]

There is no "effect" until it is actually described. "We did this thing and something went wrong and we totally did not expect that"  is not an "effect" or a "totally new science".

No need to peer review, just a blog post. Nobody but like-minded lunatics would watch that video, I can guarantee you that.

And that thing that editors are holding back the "new science" is also wearing a bit thin.

[Deco56]

Why do I have to describe an effect that is being recorded on video? Do you not recognize what is going on in the video?

It's funny when someone brings up something new, like in a video, you dismiss it and don't even watch the video. How is that being scientific- just dismissing it? Why?

"Oh if I havent seen that effect before it cant be real so I wont even bother watching it because we already know everything there is to know about electricity and science".....is that the logic?

To be very clear, I know this video isnt definitive evidence and 99% of these videos out there are probably BS....but 100%? All the time? Without investigating?

Cant you admit that it's at least an interesting effect if it can be duplicated? Seems like the guy put alot of time and effort into doing it and has some advanced equipment.

[ataradov]

Because the video does not let me review all the details of the experimental setup and observations in a coherent way. Article is also a minimal barrier that cuts a lot of  garbage upfront. Making goofy videos is easy and fun, so a lot of pseudo-science people do that. Describing what you did is harder. Too hard in fact for that type of people.

Science is not done though videos. Period.

"New science" may be, but it does not belong on this forum. I'm not against that stuff existing. I'm just not sure why are you bringing that to an engineering forum.

Also, I would gladly look at a video by a person with an established reputation. With that I at least get a guarantee that it would not be a complete waste of my time. But you need to get that reputation first.

[james_s]

It's futile to attempt to use logic in a debate with a true believer in pseudoscience. This thread should probably just be locked, it's a waste of time like every other free energy thread. It will just go around and around in circles.

[Deco56]

I'm sure if you were willing to watch the entire video (as unbearable as it may be, observing an experiment to the scientifically minded) - he describes the experiment and his set up along with the video recording of the experimental results.

And asking me why I am bring this to an engineering forum....Well, I don't even know how to respond to that. It's an experiment that would take some engineering to do!!!!

Please guys, just be open to the possibility that we don't know it all. It's called humility.

I'm not saying this effect is free energy or that I know engineering better than all of you....I'm simply saying it's a fascinating effect! I thought an engineering forum would be excited to see something like this.

[Deco56]

Of course....when we don't like what the poster is saying let's just lock the thread. That way we can really be open to ideas!

AGAIN, NO ONE IS CLAIMING FREE ENERGY IN THIS THREAD!

[ataradov]

What is the effect? I actually went and looked the minute 30 if the video. I see a light bulb with a piece of paper powered by some noisy transformer-like device.

What do you think is so interesting about that? What is new?

[Deco56]

In both videos (not just one), you see the light coming from the powered bulb (which is coming from the single wire side of a Tesla transformer having the peculiar effect of an attractive force between it and some copper tape. The first video shows various materials with various degrees of response, and both videos showing an attractive force between the light bulb when powered and the copper tape. Obviously, regular powered light bulb does not have this effect. I find that interesting, don't you?