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Shielding circuit with plastic magnetic sheet ?
« on: March 04, 2018, 09:37:27 am »
As the elastic magnetic sheet is available quite cheaply with relatively large surface area, wonder if a circuit is encased or fully shielded with these sheets will reduce EMI / RFI exposure ?

Any insight will be appreciated.

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Re: Shielding circuit with plastic magnetic sheet ?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2018, 01:34:47 pm »
Y'mean the fridge magnet stuff, or actual soft magnet stuff?

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Re: Shielding circuit with plastic magnetic sheet ?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2018, 01:59:58 pm »
Should you use flexible ferrite sheet instead?
 

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Re: Shielding circuit with plastic magnetic sheet ?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2018, 02:57:27 pm »
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As the elastic magnetic sheet is available quite cheaply with relatively large surface area, wonder if a circuit is encased or fully shielded with these sheets will reduce EMI / RFI exposure ?
No i dont think you can do effective B field shielding with thin pieces of sheet. -Think of the thick foam things they put on the  walls of EMC chambers...they are thick foam, and not thin sheet.

If its thin sheet, then for E field shielding it should be metallic.
 

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Re: Shielding circuit with plastic magnetic sheet ?
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2018, 08:34:18 am »
Y'mean the fridge magnet stuff, or actual soft magnet stuff?

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Like this for example.

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Re: Shielding circuit with plastic magnetic sheet ?
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2018, 12:24:01 pm »
Ah.  Yeah, no... that's magnetized, hard ferrite.  Permeability of about air.

Or, more correctly: a modest (average) permeability, but only when you drive it hard enough to remagnetize it; in which case it will quickly melt, because all that magnetic energy is lost as hysteresis.

There may actually be a little (small signal) permeability, no idea.  It's not going to be useful though...

There's no fundamental difference between that, and the stuff that's useful to us -- ferrite of either kind is cheap, just mix it in and go.  But they have to make a metric shitton of it, to get the price that low.  An easily-magnetized (soft) ferrite isn't very useful to consumers, so it's not made in that kind of quantity. :(

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