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Offline BgdnTopic starter

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LTC2057 output offset
« on: March 09, 2023, 05:58:59 am »
Hello,

i have made the circuit from the picture bellow.

The input voltage comes from ad8221,  and the output voltage is feeding a adc ( ltc2368-24).

The power supply for V+ is 3.3V, and for V- is -2V.

Input signal is DC.


My problem is that i have a large amount of offset voltageoutput of LTC2057 which is aprox 51mV

I measured 1.4415 volts at the entrance ( V3 in the schematic), and on the output i get 1.3828Volts.

Why is this offset? I am missing something here?





 

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Re: LTC2057 output offset
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2023, 08:30:42 am »
The output load may be too capacitive - so too little series resistance to isolate it from the input. With the low impedance output the layout (especially the ground) can be a factor too.
So there is a chance the OP-amp oscillates or at least has strong ringing after the internal switching spikes and spikes coming from the ADC.

At least for a test one could increase the 10 Ohm to let's say 100 ohm.

The supply is rather low, but should normally be OK. With only some 5 V there are more alternative to the LTC2057, that may have better tolerance to capacitive loading.
 

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Re: LTC2057 output offset
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2023, 08:53:09 am »
The output might oscillate very probably, please check.
Remove the 4n7 capacitor from the output.
Frank
 
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Re: LTC2057 output offset
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2023, 09:34:21 am »
The schematic does not show buffer caps on the supplies. Sometimes buffer caps help with capacitive loads.

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Offline BgdnTopic starter

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Re: LTC2057 output offset
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2023, 09:38:43 am »
Hello,

the power voltage rails are buffered with 100n & 10uf caps.

The pcb is a 4 layer one,  with a solid ground layer, with no loops on the other layers

I know the adc sar, has some spikes durring aquisition.


I will try tonight to do a debug with a scope on the lines to see if i have some oscilations.

I will keep you updated.
 

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Re: LTC2057 output offset
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2023, 08:15:14 pm »
Hello,
i have mounted the scope at the entrance of the adc,  there was an oscilation of about 50mv ( unfortunatly i did not found the stick to export the scope's picture).

I removed the 4n7 capacitor, and the oscilation disapeard.

Everything seems to work fine now.

By the way, can you recomend some low ripple power supplies for negative/positive rails?

In my design i use XC6210B332MR for the 3v3 rail, and LTC1550LCMS8-2 for the negative voltage.

 

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Re: LTC2057 output offset
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2023, 05:35:35 pm »
By the way, can you recomend some low ripple power supplies for negative/positive rails?
In my design i use XC6210B332MR for the 3v3 rail, and LTC1550LCMS8-2 for the negative voltage.

LT3045/3094
 

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Re: LTC2057 output offset
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2023, 02:50:54 pm »
10 Ohms is indeed at the low end, values for the isolation resistor are 10..100

circuit ca be improved with double feedback:
problem with starting circuit is, that ADC mesurement value will change with sample rate: rising sample rate -> drop in result value
this ca be cured with feedback from the reservoir capacitor instead of OP-Output, but with a resistor, typically 1k
but now you also need a feedback capacitor from OP output, typically about/less 1/100 of reservoir capacitor value.
 
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