Author Topic: Ebay fraud - Datron 4910 - Voltage reference (Read 13763 times)

try · « **Reply #50 on:** March 20, 2021, 11:08:52 am »

Quote from: ScoobyDoo on March 20, 2021, 07:00:29 am

Folks - the impostors were back this morning - ~~five~~ nine listings using stolen pictures under auction in 3458A section
Hopefully they will be removed very soon ...

It would be good if some Voltnuts check out ebay every Saturday morning and report these fraudulent listings to Fleepay.

They also change their modus operandi - they invite people to divert to their fake website:

https://www.ebay.com.4953236.com/CT/A81.html

Hello ScoobyDoo,

the story remembers me the film "Und täglich grüßt das Murmeltier" (Originaltitel: Groundhog Day)

I rang up Ebay. The employee was busier in getting my credentials (date of birth) than in stopping the fraud.
I told him that giving my Ebay alias and my full name would be enough.

The German team is unable to delete obvious fraudulous offers on the American Ebay site. This denotes how bad Ebay is organized.

I am glad to see that you are taking care of the fraudsters.

The Datron should be going offline now.

Best regards and thank you for your last email...

try

picburner · « **Reply #51 on:** March 20, 2021, 05:10:33 pm »

As a countermeasure (completely useless) eBay now asks for a second login to access my sales page.
Basically they only just waste my time: if someone hacked my account he already has my name and my password!!
What's the point of asking twice?

SilverSolder · « **Reply #52 on:** March 20, 2021, 08:38:43 pm »

Quote from: picburner on March 20, 2021, 05:10:33 pm

As a countermeasure (completely useless) eBay now asks for a second login to access my sales page.
Basically they only just waste my time: if someone hacked my account he already has my name and my password!!
What's the point of asking twice?

That's what most security precautions do - waste the time of the legitimate user.

The result is a drag on the economy as people react by using the inconvenient, cumbersome crap less!

tggzzz · « **Reply #53 on:** March 20, 2021, 11:07:42 pm »

Quote from: SilverSolder on March 20, 2021, 08:38:43 pm

That's what most security precautions do - waste the time of the legitimate user.

They shift responsibility.

The PIN on an ATM/debit card is to protect the bank, not the customer. "The PIN was correct so either you used the card or you gave it to someone else against our Ts&Cs. Your problem".

See Halifax vs Munden, where a policeman was jailed for fraud. Years later they found the frausters were Halifax employees

richnormand · « **Reply #54 on:** March 21, 2021, 02:28:16 am »

I have sent multiple listing feedback to ebay about this.
They always use the same contact email "pawn shop" and the same picture in the photo.
Interesting that a "whois" search to that domain would list them in a non US country.
But ebay has not done anything to stop them. I would think they could flag a photo that is well known an stop them if they really wanted to...
I have stopped reporting them now since it looks ebay with all its resources does not really care.

SilverSolder · « **Reply #55 on:** March 21, 2021, 02:52:58 am »

Quote from: richnormand on March 21, 2021, 02:28:16 am

I have sent multiple listing feedback to ebay about this.
They always use the same contact email "pawn shop" and the same picture in the photo.
Interesting that a "whois" search to that domain would list them in a non US country.
But ebay has not done anything to stop them. I would think they could flag a photo that is well known an stop them if they really wanted to...
I have stopped reporting them now since it looks ebay with all its resources does not really care.

They only care if big interests with big lawyers step in... e.g. try to sell a video that the movie industry doesn't want you to sell, and see how effective eBay can be...

ScoobyDoo · « **Reply #56 on:** March 27, 2021, 09:27:38 am »

Hello Folks - it was quiet this week - however the scammers were busy last night:

ebay items

143989637896
143989648834
143989637850

Fraudulent links
https://www.ebay.com.8870945.com/CT/A43.html
https://www.ebay.com.5378281.com/CT/F524.html
https://www.ebay.com.8870945.com/CT/A81.html

While removing these fraudulent listings they popped again under different stolen account ...

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=3458A&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1

I wonder how well these trustworthy sellers protect their Fleepay passwords ... ?

Best regards
ScoobyDoo

try · « **Reply #57 on:** March 27, 2021, 10:03:26 am »

My beloved Datron 4910 is back for fraud!

And it has doubled its existence even!

https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_sop=10&LH_PrefLoc=2&_nkw=datron+4910&ul_noapp=true

Using one of ScoobyDoo fraudster links I just submitted my interest in a 3458A (see attached pictures) for the "100% authentic" article.

picburner · « **Reply #58 on:** April 03, 2021, 09:09:50 am »

The Datron 4910 fake auction is back!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254926706446
With the poor shop flooded with hundreds of other fake auctions.

ScoobyDoo · « **Reply #59 on:** April 03, 2021, 09:20:37 am »

Ali Baba and its 40 thieves are back in town ...

Always early on Saturdays - in auction category - looks like when Fleapay resets its auction button ... and opens the door ...

Also in 3458A category of products ...

try · « **Reply #60 on:** April 03, 2021, 11:33:11 am »

I rang them up. Even if they put down the fake ads their ignorance is impressive!

picburner · « **Reply #61 on:** April 03, 2021, 01:29:22 pm »

I just discovered another scam: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194012981645
I don't know if the authors are the same or not.
However, even here the shop has been filled with hundreds of other fake auctions.

rubidium · « **Reply #62 on:** April 03, 2021, 01:54:05 pm »

Literally dozens of these scams for high-end test equipment popped up on ebay yesterday evening. Vector network analyzers, spectrum analyzers, scopes, LCR meters - all fantastic gear if only true. Telltale indicator is listing for $1500 (one seller) or $1000 (another seller), with directions to not bid, but rather hit the given link to make your offer. The first part of each link starts with "www.ebay.com" but always continues further with an additional ".com", e.g. "www.ebay.com.7153282.com/CT/c332.html". These people should be drawn and quartered.

ScoobyDoo · « **Reply #63 on:** April 03, 2021, 04:44:44 pm »

I don't understand why eBay does not grey out its auction button permanently ...
Every Saturday it is set active again and then these thieves are back ...

Ebay fraud - Datron 4910 - Voltage reference

picburner · « **Reply #64 on:** September 19, 2021, 10:58:06 am »

They are back again: this is the compromised store.

iMo · « **Reply #65 on:** September 19, 2021, 11:45:05 am »

Quote from: picburner on September 19, 2021, 10:58:06 am

They are back again: this is the compromised store.

I am going to buy a few of those Rolex, Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Omega watches (provided the shipping would not cost me $23)

KT88 · « **Reply #66 on:** September 19, 2021, 11:59:49 am »

Yup noticed that as well - they slightly adjusted their strategy. A 3458A is now around $1500 - $1600.

try · « **Reply #67 on:** September 19, 2021, 12:15:57 pm »

Rang up local Ebay security.
The shop owner left an absence notice - he'll be back by the end of september.
Obviously this information makes attacks a lot easier.

picburner · « **Reply #68 on:** September 19, 2021, 02:21:37 pm »

....and to stay on topic... they also put one Wavetek 4910 up for sale.

AaronLee · « **Reply #69 on:** September 19, 2021, 02:57:10 pm »

Quote from: picburner on September 19, 2021, 02:21:37 pm

....and to stay on topic... they also put one Wavetek 4910 up for sale.

And it has the exact same photo of the item that the OP posted in the first post in this thread.

AaronLee · « **Reply #70 on:** September 19, 2021, 03:49:58 pm »

The listing for the Dalton Wavetek 4910 mentioned just two posts up is no long active. I assume Ebay took it down, but they left all the other listings from that seller. Come on, Ebay, use your brain. It's obvious ALL the current listings from that seller are fraudulent, not just that one.

picburner · « **Reply #71 on:** March 05, 2022, 08:15:49 am »

Here we go again! However, they have changed their technique: the payment request is no longer found in the object description but in the second picture.
They also changed the items to "sale": there is no longer the subject of this topic.

DavidKo · « **Reply #72 on:** March 07, 2022, 09:18:53 am »

I cannot confirm if it was fraud, but someone had used my photos (HP 3478A) in another auction (Buy now). It seems that it is not against the ebay picture policy, so I have not reported that (by the way, the same German based seller was selling some cycling GPS with pictures where the cars around had USA style license plates).
Since there are money involved I'm surprised that in Europe it is not necessary 2 factor authentication with exact seller identification for selling goods. At least it will be harder to hack someone account. That was my second thought since the seller had already the history of sold items.

EE54 · « **Reply #73 on:** March 08, 2022, 04:01:17 am »

So uh, what's the chance of the scammers appearing here to complain about how we're ruining their business. Would make for quite an entertaining thread.


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