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Offline djsbTopic starter

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Hot plate for SMD reflow
« on: November 29, 2010, 12:23:38 pm »
I'm thinking about buying or making a hot plate for SMD reflow work. Does anyone know of any plates that are specifically made for the purpose and that are not too expensive? Another possibility is buying a PID controller, a cartridge heater and a thermostat and making a plate out of Aluminium. Like this one
 
http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=537

Any thoughts?

David.
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Re: Hot plate for SMD reflow
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2010, 01:11:35 pm »
Have you considered using an electric frypan or skillet?

Cut off the raised edge and bolted a piece of 25mm aluminium plate to the base. You could then use a PID controller similar to that in your link for temperature control.
 

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Re: Hot plate for SMD reflow
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 01:17:00 pm »
Have you heard about how they did business at sparkfun? I the beginning they used a hot plate just like you asked. Here is a link to their tutorial..

http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/59
 

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Re: Hot plate for SMD reflow
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 02:31:18 pm »
Problem with hotplates is heat-up time. Try a toaster oven. I use this one from CPC. Someone at Adafruit posted about a cheaper one from Argos
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Re: Hot plate for SMD reflow
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2010, 03:06:24 pm »
They also sell a kit that let you convert ovens, the same kit should work just as well for hot plates.

http://www.sparkfun.com/products/81
 

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Re: Hot plate for SMD reflow
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 04:29:49 pm »
I agree.  Go with a toaster oven.
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Re: Hot plate for SMD reflow
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2010, 04:51:47 pm »
I just saw a video somewhere where somebody used an upside-down clothes iron as a hot plate.  I was thinking of using the iron as the hot plate as in the example above.  Add a base and the PID controller and you'd be all set.
 

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Re: Hot plate for SMD reflow
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 07:08:59 pm »
I just saw a video somewhere where somebody used an upside-down clothes iron as a hot plate.  I was thinking of using the iron as the hot plate as in the example above.  Add a base and the PID controller and you'd be all set.

Oops...the post about the iron was in this forum.
 

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Re: Hot plate for SMD reflow
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2010, 08:08:31 pm »
I like the refloaster.



I keep thinking of making something, but my hot air station works fine and I don't do that many boards.
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Re: Hot plate for SMD reflow
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2010, 12:36:43 am »
I'm thinking about buying or making a hot plate for SMD reflow work. Does anyone know of any plates that are specifically made for the purpose and that are not too expensive? Another possibility is buying a PID controller, a cartridge heater and a thermostat and making a plate out of Aluminium. Like this one
 
http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=537

Any thoughts?
David.

I just purchased a cheap electric hot plate ( for about $20 buck - many years ago). I place my PCB on a flat 20 ga. Aluminum plate (8x10 inch) and place all of the SMD while the PCB is on the alum plate. I prefer to keep the PCB on the alum plate since the loose components can be easily shift out of alignment. Its easier to move the alum plate with the PCB on top than it is to put the PCB on the alum plate without creating a small bump when dropping the PCB the final distance on to the alum plate causing components to shift.

When I finish I pick up the alum plate and place it on the hot plate and turn on the hot plate. I wait for the solder to reflow than lift off the alum plate (with oven mitts) on to a hot-pot stand to cool. This helps minimize the duration of the heat on the components. No need for precise temperature regulation since I remove the PCB from the heat source soon after the solder melts. The alum plate also acts like a heat sink after its removed from the hot plate.

You could use a alum. frying pan if you wish (but don't use it to cook food after you used it for reflow) but in my opinion a thin flat alum. plate is just easier to work with. You can purchase Alum. plate from www.onlinemetals.com) They will cut it to size for you. The problem with a frying pan is placing the PCB in the frying pan without jarring any of the loose components.

One recomendation: Avoid using reflow for electrolytic caps, as the high heat will cause some of the electrolyte to evaporate increasing cap ESR and shortenings its life. I prefer to hand solder electrolytic caps by hand after reflow.

The only issue with SMD and reflow if you need to rework the PCB. For SMD rework, you'll need a hot air pencil.

FYI: Someone asked for a solder paste supplier:
http://www.zeph.com/solderpaste.htm

For roll your own PCBs:
http://www.parts-express.com/wizards/searchResults.cfm?srchExt=CAT&srchCat=206&CFID=5316298&CFTOKEN=27605062 (Boards and Chemicals)
http://www.injectorall.com/index.htm (Boards and Chemicals)
http://www.dalpro.net/Page.html (Chemicals)
http://www.pulsarprofx.com/pcbfx/main_site/pages/products/index.html (Toner transfer mask for better traces and DIY silkscreen) - Toner transfer method not so good with thin traces and small SMD devices. the toner transfer mask helps with thin gauge traces but its not perfer. The preferred method is to use the light senstive artwork transfer.

For hotair rework equipment:
http://www.assemblyoutfitters.com/shop/category.aspx?catid=23 (I have the Xytronics 850D and it works great - worth the money I paid for it).

Low cost Stencils:
http://www.ohararp.com/Stencils.html ($25 - Good customer service too!)

For manufactured PCBs I use:
http://www.sunstone.com/ (ValueProto isn't terribly expensive) if you know of a better/cheaper PCB shop with online ordering in the USA please share it.


 

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Re: Hot plate for SMD reflow
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2010, 09:15:46 pm »
Yes, I have used hot plate for a 2" x 2" board with fine-pitch SMTs.  Works surprisingly well.  I used:
  • PCB from batchPCB
  • stencil from ohararp
  • paste from digikey

Thrift store provided an old frying pan, and an IR thermometer is good to keep track of the board temperature.  As soon as solder melts and components align, remove from heat and allow to cool.  It's going to require some rework with flux and wick, but overall much quicker and better-looking result than hand-soldering.



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