New Flir products

[Psi]

Aiming for $250, surprising it has an internal battery - maybe teh MSX stuff pulls too much to run on power from the phone

Not all phones can support 5V 500mA output on the USB socket. There is infact quite a wide range between manufactures. So an internal battery means the product works even on phones that can only source 100mA or less

[encryptededdy]

New FLIR Vue Pro R: http://www.flir.com/suas/content/?id=75250

Basically a FLIR Vue Pro with radiometric recording, which in itself was a FLIR Vue with a digital recorder attached, which in itself was a slightly modified FLIR Tau 2 core.
This does NOT record radiometric video (ie. .seq files), instead it can record MPEG4 colour video and take radiometric jpegs at set intervals.
With a optional addon the camera gains digital (HDMI) output and input voltage range expansion to 5 VDC – 28 VDC.
Measurement accuracy is pretty bad at +/-5°C or 5% of reading

Pricing from OEMCameras: 640x480 7.5Hz: $4499.00, 30Hz: $4699.00. 320x240 7.5Hz: $2999.00, 60Hz: $3199.00

Also, another interesting Lepton product, the "TrafiOne", which is a traffic sensor: http://www.flir.com/TrafiOne/

[Ben321]

New FLIR Vue Pro R: http://www.flir.com/suas/content/?id=75250

Basically a FLIR Vue Pro with radiometric recording, which in itself was a FLIR Vue with a digital recorder attached, which in itself was a slightly modified FLIR Tau 2 core.
This does NOT record radiometric video (ie. .seq files), instead it can record MPEG4 colour video and take radiometric jpegs at set intervals.
With a optional addon the camera gains digital (HDMI) output and input voltage range expansion to 5 VDC – 28 VDC.
Measurement accuracy is pretty bad at +/-5°C or 5% of reading

Pricing from OEMCameras: 640x480 7.5Hz: $4499.00, 30Hz: $4699.00. 320x240 7.5Hz: $2999.00, 60Hz: $3199.00

Also, another interesting Lepton product, the "TrafiOne", which is a traffic sensor: http://www.flir.com/TrafiOne/

Which FLIR devices support SEQ recording directly

[encryptededdy]

Which FLIR devices support SEQ recording directly

The E40 and above all support streaming radiometric data over USB to FLIR Tools which records them to SEQ.

As for in camera recording it's supported in their science versions of the T series (ie. T430sc, T450sc, T650sc and T630sc) and the T1020.

[nowlan]

That Flir Vue is for finding secret grow ops? Why would I want to do aerial views? Unless search and rescue.

[encryptededdy]

That Flir Vue is for finding secret grow ops? Why would I want to do aerial views? Unless search and rescue.

Roof & solar panel inspection, Agriculture

[Fraser]

Thermal camera equipped drones are being used in the UK to target areas of farmers crops that are affected by blight. Limited treatment to only areas of infection reduce chemical  costs and make the process more environmentally friendly. A good use of the technology and a growing industry for companies offering the equipment or service.

Fraser

[gardner]

to target areas of farmers crops that are affected by blight.

To verify insurance/subsidy claims for crops or livestock.  From back-in-the-day a friend's dad was working for the E-U basically identifying whether sheep claiming some E-U subsidy were real or cardboard cutouts positioned on the hillside and moved around once a day.

[mct75]

It looks like TPL has a newer weapon sight that uses the 30Hz version of the 80x60 Lepton. I wish the 30Hz version was more accessible.


Odd that they haven't upgraded to the newer version (160x120?) yet. 

http://tplogic.com/thermal-solutions/t10/t12/

[tomas123]

In Germany Flir sells the webcam "Flir A8X" with a Lepton 80x60 and VGA real camera (=> Flir one Gen 1) for 1.000 EUR  (amazon.com 1.000 USD)

http://www.flir.com/uploadedFiles/Marine/Products/Thermal-Monitoring/FLIR_AX8/FLIR_AX8_Brochure.pdf

our F1 G2 raspberry hack give us 160x120 for 300 USD 

I can't confirm the temperature gradient (rainbow).
My F1G2 runs several days by continuous battery charging at 20°C room temperature without problems, but I noticed a really battery heating like a fast charging smartphone.



I'm worried about the duration of the shutter mechanism (640 movements daily)

[bombar69]

Hello guys,
I have a Flir Scout TK with a Lepton 160 x 120
I have tried to get a connection to the Flir Scout TK with Flir Tools but no chance.
I asked today the Flir Support which Flir Software is compatible with The Flir Scout TK
and the answer from Flir Support was "No PC software is compatible with the Flir Scout TK Cam".
I also tried to get a connection with "FlirInstallNet.exe" but without success !

Has anyone here experience with the Flir Scout TK Cam ?

Kind regards
bombar69

[nowlan]

Just noticed the TG130 on ebay before. rrp looks to be $199 US which is pretty good. How much was the lepton on its own?

Flir Website



Tequipment has a comparison table between the TG165 & TG130.
Tequipment

	TG165	TG130
Range	-25 to 380°C	–10 to +150°C
Price	$199	$349.99
Sensor	80x60	80x60
Min Focus	4"	10"

10cm focus sounds like it might suit our PCB hot spotting.

[Fraser]

The TG130 is designed to provide an alternative to simple visual thermometers like the Fluke VT02 and VT04.

It's a nice simple camera but a pity FLIR used the LEPTON 2 rather than the LEPTON 3. I have said as much to Bill Terre VP FLIR.

Fraser

[OrBy]

Talk about building it down to a price though!

Digikey still lists a Lepton 2 at $175USD in single units + shipping/tax.
For $25 more you get the same sensor in a full retail turn key product with warranty etc...

It seems fairly basic feature wise but I think it's not a bad starting product.

Can't wait for a tear-down and see if FLIR left any hack-ability on the table!

[Fraser]

It is impressive pricing for such a complete unit. The cost of the LEPTON 2 sensor has always surprised me. No idea why FLIR has set the price so high.

With regard to 'hackability', sadly this camera will always be limited by its LEPTON 2 core resolution. FLIR do not need to hobble the resolution in software as that is a fixed hardware limitation. Could some extra features for measurement and modes be unlocked ? maybe, if the firmware was designed to be used in more capable units and just configured to 'basic' mode for this product. Without delving into the firmware we cannot know.

Having a thermal imaging capability, in only 80 x 60 pixels, in a small handheld unit is still a potentially very useful tool for applications that do not need pin sharp imaging. PCB work might be a little challenging for it but if it has a close focus capability, or a close up lens is used, it may sufice for basic pcb checks.

Fraser

[OrBy]

It also looks like it has a window covering the sensor. I would assume such windows are not cheap and likely the bulk of the cost next to the sensor itself. Making it a good source of components for other projects.

[Fraser]

I originally thought the window on the F1G2 would be Chalcogenide glass but from what I have been told it is more likely thin silicon, as used in for the LEPTON lens. Such a window would be cheap to produce but it is a less than ideal material for LWIR. On the F1G2 the window is used to protect the delicate FFC shutter mechanism from dirt contamination, and for cosmetic reasons. It is not essential though.

Fraser

[bicc1306]

I found the MSX Technology too good, allowing you to see detail in the thermal image that other cameras simply can't touch.

[sam1275]

FLIR Boson
http://www.flir.com/cores/content/?id=74595

It's unreleased yet, but it looks very similar to Quark.

[kanzas19]

Hello.
A few weeks ago I bought Flir Scout TK.
The camera is lightweight, small, and are probably all its advantages.
Something you can see, but only large objects.
Image has a lot of noise.
Does anyone have any experience with Scout TK?
Regards.

[Fraser]

The TK is an 'entry level' LEPTON core based spotting scope. Much cheaper than the TAU core based spotting scopes from FLIR.

Sadly that means that it's imaging performance is limited.

For its intended market it is adequate however.

Fraser

[kanzas19]

No futore and no hope for it?
It's realy sad. 
Thank you.

[Uho]

From what distance made photo? You want to see far or to see in more detail? In any case, you need to change the lens. I've been doing for the lepton optional lenses. I do not have such an imager, and can not say any suitable size. What would fit into the case.

[Fraser]

Further to my last brief comment.

The TK spotting scope was intended to provide people with basic needs with a means of viewing scenes in the thermal domain, but at the same time FLIR do not want it to impinge upon the higher performance spotting scopes that they sell. Prior to the TK, the choice for. Mariners and hikers was limited to the  FLIR units costing several thousand Dollars. Whilst Mariners are used to paying high prices for equipment, Hikers and wildlife spotters are not so receptive to such. Hence the creation of the TK. FLIR also make budget friendly fire fighting cameras. This is all about FLIR filling gaps in the Market but sadly performance will be lower than the more expensive models. I think the view, "better than nothing" is applicable in many cases.

The LEPTON is a neat little core that achieves much in a really tiny format. It is a compromise solution however. I am hopeful that we will see the LEPTON 3 160x120 pixel core used in more products.

Fraser

[Fraser]

FLIR''s press release on the TK hints at its more limited imaging abilities....

"The FLIR Scout TK thermal vision monocular, the smallest and lightest camera in the FLIR Scout series, is developed specifically for outdoor enthusiasts. Pocket-sized and designed for one-handed use, the Scout TK allows consumers to see in total darkness and become better aware of their surroundings. With more than five hours of battery life, the Scout TK detects body heat of people and animals, or helps identify key landmarks. Whether camping, fishing, or hiking, the rugged Scout TK provides outdoor enthusiasts with the power to fully explore and visualize their surroundings regardless of the environmental conditions."

The specs state that the TK can reveal a man at 100 Yards with its 20 Degree FOV lens. That alone hints that the TK is somewhat limited.

http://www.flir.com/hunting-outdoor/scouttk/

Fraser