Just thought I should mention ebay have come up with a new way of overcharging for international shipping via it's own dis-service.
It now has a choice of paying import charges before shipping, or at delivery, the examples below are for printed paper (TE manuals, currently zero duty where I live), look at what it defaults to.
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David
Welcome to the world of "enshittification", which was justifiably applauded as a "best new word of 2023" ![Sad :(](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/xsad.gif.pagespeed.ic.L3FGyzQrjB.png)
I presume the "pay now" option means fleabay have to work out the cost, submit the payment and paperwork.
I presume the "pay on delivery" option means Fedex etc have to work out the cost, submit the payment and paperwork.
I've noticed this new choice is only available on the most recent items with EIS shipping, anything listed more than a few days ago doesn't have this choice. In the case of the two TE manuals I bought last night, they are collecting tax of £0.00 at a rate of 0%, price of manual was the same on dot com & co dot uk ebay sites.
For the "pay now" option ePay collect the tax of nothing.
The "pay on delivery" option ePay shouldn't be collecting anything, the delivery company in the UK (eg RM, Ervi etc.) would send the ransom note and wait for payment of tax (nothing) & their fee (£?.??)
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Both choices are for EIS and would go to the same sorting location in the US, the rest will be automated with a different label/sticker for each option, what I don't understand is why the "pay now" shipping is cheaper, as they are doing less for the more expensive option.
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It would be helpful to know what the corresponding screenshots are for something where duty is payable.
Well I had to give up looking for TE items with tax/duty & EIS shipping, none ship to the UK via that dis-service, unless incorrectly listed under manuals or parts categories.
Instead I attach some screenshots of an appropriately named "big disc audio" thingy
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, you've guessed it completely borked too, price in the US without tax is $39.99
https://www.ebay.com/itm/387254125460Both EIS options charge tax/duties at 20% even though one is not supposed too, both are $47.99 for the item. The pay after shipping option is still more expensive, the delivery company would then charge you tax again (presumably on the $47.99 & not the $39.99), what a complete fail.
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Think I'm done wasting time with this, be careful if buying on ebay and don't rush thought the checkout process.
E,
one thing about shipping.
Always insure for full value.
It may not be needed, but it's better be done when needed.
Rubber wheels have standard amount per kilo.
Don't know how air cargo goes, but probably same as sea freight, where insurance is not mandatory per se, but the type of cargo may require it.
Insurance with USPS was no use when I bought a HP 735A on here a few years ago, the seller packed it badly, it then got damaged, the seller refused to put in a claim in
as they knew it would get rejected.
David