K... still think I'd prefer the bun toasted dark with ham & Swiss. But not in front of anyone doing the Lent thing. ![Laughing :-DD](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley_laughing.gif.pagespeed.ce._hfWAz_QHO.gif)
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The bun is way too sweet for that. It's not a roll, it's a sweet bun. Now, parts of Northern America have no meaningful way to distinguish between those; both bagels and muffins are definitely on the sweet side from my perspective and most North Americans have only heard of truly dark bread as something one might find in strange places in Pennsylvania or Brooklyn. Or in MRE's from Germany (Dosenbrot, typically). But you gotta believe me on this: ham and "cheese" (only the posh have actually seen proper cheese in the US. I base this on having to go to a Whole Foods to find Gruyère in Vegas. They had whole grain bagels too. Made for a week of nice breakfasts.) on that bun is a no-go.
I don't find bagels sweet at all, at least the ones I buy. Mrs GreyWoolfe and I love the brown bread in a can. I also love pumpernickel bread, toasted with ham and swiss, or other cold cuts and cheese and mayonnaise, just my personal preference. Butter and cream cheese on toasted pumpernickel is good. In fact, I am going to make that for breakfast right now.
Edit: or neufchatel cheese instead of cream cheese. Oh, and iced coffee as it is still too damned hot in Flori-DUH for hot coffee.