Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread

[Zucca]

   Went for reds. Keyboard very nice apart from one really flipping annoying "feature" and that is the cherry lock function. Perfect for games but when in office mode, which honest is what this keyboard will be spending most of its time in, it has the scariest bright white LED under the windows key that you've ever seen.   On a positive not it's a lot quieter than the reds are in the K63. it's about the same as an old Cherry business line keyboard on noise. Absolutely glorious to type on though and the wrist rest and positioning is perfect. I'll desolder that LED this evening as it appears no warranty stickers are obscuring any screws

Fuuu... I feel that tingling sensation on my back, I need a new keyboard now. Yes I am a TEA muppet.
I have the brown cherry on a (Un)Logi(c)tech mech keyboard. It's too squishy and every months I have to click yes for a unlogictech sw update. I am pissed now.

I now that the keyboard market is going in the RGB bananas, but to calm us down there is a super antiviolence keyboard:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000689466516.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.137142c5lWj7ys&algo_pvid=58aed492-0615-4875-9127-be90a00544bf&algo_expid=58aed492-0615-4875-9127-be90a00544bf-22&btsid=0ab50f4415898704925948507e8ab7&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

PS: Take out all the RGB leds designed for HW PC, how much RGB will survive?

[beanflying]

Some may remember this, a 5 GHz data distribution installation for locals needing better internet:

Well due to its popularity it needs be upgraded with an 11 GHz backhaul link for higher data throughput.
And the HW has just been dropped off for the Thursday upgrade where we need a crew at each end to swap in the new preconfigured HW quickly without too much disruption to customers service.

800mm Ubiquity dish and 11 GHz airFiber 11 radio with up to 300km range ! 
Seems a waste to point to point 2 of these over only 10.2 km but 1.2 GB/s wireless is pretty cool.
https://www.ui.com/airfiber/airfiber-11/


I'll grab some more pics when it's up and running.

Sounds like that 5G stuff to me Burning time 

[tautech]

Does it still work when the gas runs out of the lighter..?   

Nah, it was strategically placed there to cover something. 

Some may remember this, a 5 GHz data distribution installation for locals needing better internet:

Well due to its popularity it needs be upgraded with an 11 GHz backhaul link for higher data throughput.
And the HW has just been dropped off for the Thursday upgrade where we need a crew at each end to swap in the new preconfigured HW quickly without too much disruption to customers service.

800mm Ubiquity dish and 11 GHz airFiber 11 radio with up to 300km range ! 
Seems a waste to point to point 2 of these over only 10.2 km but 1.2 GB/s wireless is pretty cool.
https://www.ui.com/airfiber/airfiber-11/


I'll grab some more pics when it's up and running.

Sounds like that 5G stuff to me Burning time 

Gotta get past me first and that could be worse for your health than a few rays ! 

[Specmaster]

   Went for reds. Keyboard very nice apart from one really flipping annoying "feature" and that is the cherry lock function. Perfect for games but when in office mode, which honest is what this keyboard will be spending most of its time in, it has the scariest bright white LED under the windows key that you've ever seen.   On a positive not it's a lot quieter than the reds are in the K63. it's about the same as an old Cherry business line keyboard on noise. Absolutely glorious to type on though and the wrist rest and positioning is perfect. I'll desolder that LED this evening as it appears no warranty stickers are obscuring any screws

Fuuu... I feel that tingling sensation on my back, I need a new keyboard now. Yes I am a TEA muppet.
I have the brown cherry on a (Un)Logi(c)tech mech keyboard. It's too squishy and every months I have to click yes for a unlogictech sw update. I am pissed now.

I now that the keyboard market is going in the RGB bananas, but to calm us down there is a super antiviolence keyboard:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000689466516.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.137142c5lWj7ys&algo_pvid=58aed492-0615-4875-9127-be90a00544bf&algo_expid=58aed492-0615-4875-9127-be90a00544bf-22&btsid=0ab50f4415898704925948507e8ab7&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

PS: Take out all the RGB leds designed for HW PC, how much RGB will survive?

That keyboard you link to is not a mechanical one, it uses a squishy membrane as the contacts and as a result feel like a dead fish to type on. I have used mechanical keyboards now for around 5 years, with backlighting and macros etc but have never had to download a FW update for any of them. In fact there was no mention of FW updates in the manuals either.

[Specmaster]

Yeah, at what... 30FPS...?

mnem
 

I don’t know but I think it is certainly in excess of 30fps. Game play does not appear to be jerky at all and it certainly has not ground to halt. I’ll try to locate some software to measure the FPS and report back for y’all.
But in the case of bd’s card it should be far better seeing as it is a current card, 3 times the memory and about 3 times the resolution capability of mine.

[Zucca]

That keyboard you link to is not a mechanical one, it uses a squishy membrane as the contacts and as a result feel like a dead fish to type on. I have used mechanical keyboards now for around 5 years, with backlighting and macros etc but have never had to download a FW update for any of them. In fact there was no mention of FW updates in the manuals either.

(I knew it), it is a dead fish super antiviolence then.

[bd139]

Went for reds. Keyboard very nice apart from one really flipping annoying "feature" and that is the cherry lock function. Perfect for games but when in office mode, which honest is what this keyboard will be spending most of its time in, it has the scariest bright white LED under the windows key that you've ever seen.

It is rather a torch, isn't it! Mind you I quite like the "turn off capslock you dingbat" searchlight.

I have a suspicion that one of the cherry downloads allows you to update the firmware[1] to

Version 1.03: Add brightness values for dim of the modifier status display:
The status display (Cap-Lock, Scroll-Lock, Num-Lock, FN-Lock and Gaming-Mode) will dim from 80 % to 30 % of the button illumination. The brightness of 30 % is the darkest value for the active status display.

Since I don't have Win>XP, that's useless to me....

I'll desolder that LED this evening as it appears no warranty stickers are obscuring any screws

... so I inserted a bit of a post it note to make it a dimmer lemon yellow.

[1] firmware in a keyboard?! WTF

If you install virtualbox, then install virtualbox extensions pack, then install a suitable version of windows, you can pass through the USB device to the VM to upgrade the firmware.

And there's the problem: WinXP isn't on the list.

Unfortunately the only Windows that MS would sell me (when I was last looking) was the excessively new Win8 with the GUI widgets/style that had been abandoned as crap as long ago as the 1980s. I would have bought Win7, but they wouldn't sell it to me.

Liking this keyboard a lot - thanks for the link again

Edit: much boredom. Nothing on ebay at the moment. Have however bought a graphics card. So I can't expense anything with "gaming" in the title without causing trouble so I had to pay for it myself and that means no RTX because I'm a cheap arse. So I got a Gigabyte GTX 1660 w/ 6GB of RAM. It'll do for 1080p stuff and fan is off when idle / 2D which is important as it's a silent build. I couldn't get on with TensorFlow after playing with it anyway so meh and I wasn't really that impressed by the difference ray tracing made to games. CUDA on the other hand is fine and that has enough grunt for that.

I got a GTX 1650. Not sure if I have anything that will make use of it, thoughj.

Just a note. Windows licensing has changed. Download a windows image from their web site and boot it and just say “I don’t have a product key”. That’ll give you 30 days in the VM to apply the keyboard update.  No need to buy a key or anything.

honestly though I haven’t paid for a windows license ever  . Usually buy ex corp machines On which windows 10 activates even if it’s a £75 crap box from 8 years ago or use MSDN keys.

[Specmaster]

@mnem, OK using FRAPS it reports that with the graphics settings set to max shadows etc I'm getting on GTA V a rate of 60FPS and the lowest I've seen on so far has been 48FPS so it should easy to achieve better than that on a GTX1660 with 6GB 

[bd139]

Yeah my RX 550 isn't even that shit with GTA V. Totally playable at 1080p. 1660 is for Metro Exodus on "high" 

[Specmaster]

Yeah maybe for a hardcore gamer it might be worthwhile investing in a top rung card but for the casual gamer, I'd rather use that money else where. If you go for one of the top motherboards, cases, RAM, CPU, PSU, Keyboard, Graphics card and Mouse / Controller then you easily kiss goodbye to over £1,000. Hell, a PS4 with 1TB can be had new for around £300, so for way less than £1,000 you can have pretty beefy PC for video rendering / 3d CAD etc and a PS4 

[beanflying]

But sometimes you just 'need' more FPS 



Console Gamers are ..... 

[tggzzz]

Just a note. Windows licensing has changed. Download a windows image from their web site and boot it and just say “I don’t have a product key”. That’ll give you 30 days in the VM to apply the keyboard update.  No need to buy a key or anything.

I hadn't realised that, and will consider it for the very occasional times when I need it.

[Specmaster]

But sometimes you just 'need' more FPS 



Console Gamers are ..... 

Haha, doom used to run perfectly on my Amatrad 1512 all those years ago as DOS game with those same primitive graphics, used to give me headaches  they were so bad, FPS was good though.

[BU508A]

But sometimes you just 'need' more FPS 



Console Gamers are ..... 

Haha, doom used to run perfectly on my Amatrad 1512 all those years ago as DOS game with those same primitive graphics, used to give me headaches  they were so bad, FPS was good though.

Doom? I'd say, this is Castle Wolfenstein.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Wolfenstein

Edit:
Sorry, meant Wolfenstein 3D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfenstein_3D

[beanflying]

My Ryzen 3700X and 5700XT cope with Doom (original) and Hexen 'just' but I am a little concerned the 32Gb of memory might need an upgrade 

[mnementh]

@mnem, OK using FRAPS it reports that with the graphics settings set to max shadows etc I'm getting on GTA V a rate of 60FPS and the lowest I've seen on so far has been 48FPS so it should easy to achieve better than that on a GTX1660 with 6GB 

*cringe* Ummm..... yeah. For my VR, I need to do 2K (1440P) x2 at 90FPS or better or motion-blur-induced vertigo makes me wanna

I can pull 144-165FPS depending on the game on my Pixio PX329 32" monitor; but there is some annoying artifacting at those speeds unless I kill HDR and go straight 4:4:4 6-bit/ch colorspace. There are some harsh tradeoffs you have to make when you get into this size/speed/resolution at this price. 

mnem
 

[bd139]

My Ryzen 3700X and 5700XT cope with Doom (original) and Hexen 'just' but I am a little concerned the 32Gb of memory might need an upgrade 

32Gb is NOT enough here. I've got a whole elasticsearch cluster running in kubernetes in VMs and I'm banged out at 28Gb at the moment. Regretting not buying 16Gb sticks to start with now

@mnem, OK using FRAPS it reports that with the graphics settings set to max shadows etc I'm getting on GTA V a rate of 60FPS and the lowest I've seen on so far has been 48FPS so it should easy to achieve better than that on a GTX1660 with 6GB 

*cringe* Ummm..... yeah. For my VR, I need to do 2K (1440P) x2 at 90FPS or better or motion-blur-induced vertigo makes me wanna

I can pull 144-165FPS depending on the game on my Pixio PX329 32" monitor; but there is some annoying artifacting at those speeds unless I kill HDR and go straight 4:4:4 6-bit/ch colorspace. There are some harsh tradeoffs you have to make when you get into this size/speed/resolution at this price. 

Yeah that's a rabbit hole I don't want to go down. I'm quite happy to plug some pigs and noobs for half an hour on GTA V occasionally at the moment. VR does me in. I can't do it. Prefer AR. But you go to jail there if you plug pigs and noobs.

[Saskia]

@bd 3TB of physical memory on my small docker installation ...

@mnementh get 2 GV100 then, that should suffice for your rendering applications ...

[Mr. Scram]

*cringe* Ummm..... yeah. For my VR, I need to do 2K (1440P) x2 at 90FPS or better or motion-blur-induced vertigo makes me wanna

I can pull 144-165FPS depending on the game on my Pixio PX329 32" monitor; but there is some annoying artifacting at those speeds unless I kill HDR and go straight 4:4:4 6-bit/ch colorspace. There are some harsh tradeoffs you have to make when you get into this size/speed/resolution at this price. 

mnem
 

Manufacturers usually have some overdriven and ugly setting to be able to claim a very fast display. The settings you actually want to play with usually are a bit more mundane. Still fastish, but not what's advertised. That being said, compared to not that long ago modern monitors can do fast and a fairly good quality at the same time.

[bd139]

@bd 3TB of physical memory on my small docker installation ...

@mnementh get 2 GV100 then, that should suffice for your rendering applications ...

Just summed ours in prometheus across all hypervisors and AWS. 400TB RAM online 

Edit: miscount by 10x...

[BravoV]

Just 32GB at my desktop Ryzen, but ECC and B-die. 

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-computing/do-you-feel-sinful-overclocking-an-ecc-ram/

[Cerebus]

...Well, now I'm out of anything to clean electronics: wife took all of the IPA, I used my last can of contact cleaner on Jr's bicycle, and I just used up the last of my DI H20. I'm going to have to leave the house now.

Go to your local hardware store. Buy methyl hydrate.  Research the difference in plastics/paints that are methanol safe vs those that are isopropyl safe. Find SMDS, refresh yourself on safe handling & avoid direct dermal contact as methanol has a certain atavism.

Rejoice that you are smarter than all the 1d10ts who make face masks out of coffee filters stolen from med's Amazon delivery driver.    I just got a gallon for $11 to replenish my bench; they had oodles.

mnem
 

Methyl hydrate? A methyl group plus water: CH₃-<nothing> • H₂O? Does not compute, contains free radical. One presumes you mean methanol, CH₃-OH, which you could just about call Methyl Hydroxide if  you're not scared of the IUPAC naming hit squad. There are lots of alternative and traditional names for methanol but "methyl hydrate" is just plain wrong.

[drussell]

Methyl hydrate? A methyl group plus water: CH₃-<nothing> • H₂O? Does not compute, contains free radical. One presumes you mean methanol, CH₃-OH, which you could just about call Methyl Hydroxide if  you're not scared of the IUPAC naming hit squad. There are lots of alternative and traditional names for methanol but "methyl hydrate" is just plain wrong.

It may not be a "good" name, but the fact remains that it is often sold as methyl hydrate. 

I honestly have no idea where the methyl hydrate name came from and you're right, I agree that it really doesn't make any sense, but it's not my fault, I don't make the product labels. 

According to Wikipedia, other names for methanol include:

Carbinol, Columbian spirits, Hydroxymethane, MeOH, Methyl alcohol, Methyl hydrate, Methyl hydroxide, Methylic alcohol, Methylol, Pyroligneous spirit, Wood alcohol, Wood naphtha, and Wood spirit.

[tonyalbus]

Bought a 7 dollar AliExpress electronic load.......... no qlue why... but it gets you off the streets for  few hours.
can not find an other reason then to unload batteries, its useless for other proper load stuff.
needs still a housing and a digital A/V meter......... but could do some tests.

Review LM324 Electronic Load 150W 10A 72V Xiaolin



Tony

[Saskia]

My Ryzen 3700X and 5700XT cope with Doom (original) and Hexen 'just' but I am a little concerned the 32Gb of memory might need an upgrade 

this reminds me that I wanted to build my Pacman Server.

We had joints we had fun, we had PacMan for the Sun ...