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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1550 on: March 17, 2021, 01:17:25 pm »
Hi
I am sitting here with my new fancy brick SSA3021X Plus  |O
It came with firmware 2.2.1.2.5 - i decide for try crossflash to SVA. Telnet worked i changed everything according post 1223.
Double check changes, but i dont know why after changes i remount files to be read only  with
mount -o remount,ro /usr/bin/siglent (I was tired and I am stupid  :palm:)
After reboot it beeps, i see Siglent logo and TG and Mode are lighting. Ftp,www and VNC ports are open, but no telnet (i put telnetd to startup script). I can enter webpages of instrument and when I open the remote control after some time i can do remote firmware update. It allows me to send 1032SVA telnet script and also 1032SVA firmwares. It shows 100% upload and after some time aprox 10 minutes it will write "Failed" with no difference.
Do you think that is possible to reverse somehow mount read only operation (if it is the cause of problem) without voiding warranty.
Or my only hope is console access?
Thanks for help.
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1551 on: March 17, 2021, 02:25:10 pm »
It allows me to send 1032SVA telnet script and also 1032SVA firmwares. It shows 100% upload and after some time aprox 10 minutes it will write "Failed" with no difference.

You are doing this flash when booting, right?

If so I don't think you have any other solution besides opening it.
 
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1552 on: March 17, 2021, 03:03:55 pm »
No. I am able to run www vnc interface. I must put direct link to control instrument. VNC is then working (slowly), so i see Siglent logo on the screen and at the bottom box for firmware update which is reacting eg showing percentage of upload and firmware updating ending with "Fail!" message.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1553 on: March 17, 2021, 03:11:01 pm »
No. I am able to run www vnc interface.

In that case you should be able to flash my telnet .ADS script in order to have the daemon started. When in, ensure that you have sufficient space in the filesystem as you probably have the old and the new app installed...
 
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1554 on: March 17, 2021, 03:21:38 pm »
Unfortunatelly both telnet ADS files ends with Fail! message  :-BROKE
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1555 on: March 17, 2021, 03:53:22 pm »
Which .ADS are you using?
 
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1556 on: March 17, 2021, 05:02:41 pm »
Ive tried yours SSA3000X_Plus_telnet.ADS and SVA1032X_telnet.ADS
First works for starting telnet without problem for first connection .
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1557 on: March 17, 2021, 07:35:00 pm »
I cracked it open to obtain console access. Farewell warranty ;D
Everything works now  :-+ . I am at 3.2.2.4 SVA fully unlocked. Big Thanks to tv84 and others contributing to this hack. :clap:

Btw can I contact somebody to disable not working options?  8) 
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1558 on: March 17, 2021, 07:40:10 pm »
As someone whoh as one of these analyzers coming in a few days, can I ask you what the solution was? I'd like to try to avoid any issues I can.

Thanks
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1559 on: March 17, 2021, 08:20:14 pm »
Proceed according posts 1223 and 1224 without any modifications and everything check tripple times. If anything goes wrong it is solvable trough uart console connection inside instrument. You should know linux basics like operating with vi editor and etc.
I dont know where i made mistake. Only problem was that main application ecomb was not running so i started it manually trought uart console and then install SVA firmware. When i open it i have at least oportunity to check if all cables are there :)
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1560 on: March 17, 2021, 08:56:48 pm »
I'm pretty set with the Linux skills, since I've been working on various *nixes for the last 30 years.

I am somewhat unclear on the 1st 2 steps of the famous 1223 post. It says you should rename ecomb to ecomb_p or something (doing this from memory), but later posts indicate this has been renamed to Aladdin. There is also indications that newer firmware takes care of the rename for you. So the question is, should the first to steps be skipped, or should the rename be to Aladdin?

Also, tv84, which is the SVA thread? I've looked at a bunch of threads related to this subject in the past few days.

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1562 on: March 18, 2021, 07:45:46 pm »
In a nutshell:

1 - Flash the latest SSA+ FW.
2 - Go in with a telnet .ADS.
3 - Make the FS RW.
4 - Change the ProdID in config/NSP_config_upgrade_info.xml to 11403.
5 - Sync & Reboot
6 - Flash the latest SVA1032X FW.

Enjoy a  :popcorn:.

Additional activities for homework:

1 - License the options/bandwidth
2 - Replace the firmdata0/NSP_trends_config_info.xml with the SVA1032X one.

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EDIT: Today I decided to release a crossflash dummy FW version.

<file_removed>

First ensure that you have the SSA+ FW updated.

Can't get any simpler than this.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1563 on: March 20, 2021, 01:10:30 pm »
Thats Nice
Just flashing this new ADS and we have a SVA ?
So without any Telnetting ?
If so, that's great...
JP
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1564 on: March 20, 2021, 06:46:18 pm »
Hmm, 3021X+ arrived today w/ 3.2.2.4.0

Crossflash file didn't work.  Starts the upgrade and then exits back to File Explorer.

Was able to Telnet in and changed the ProdID to 11403 and rebooted.  Tried to flash the Stock SVA Firmware - same behavior, starts the upgrade and then exits back to File Explorer.  Now can't Telnet in.  After trying with the ADS exits back to the File Explorer after 1-2 minutes.

What's next? Open the device to convert to an SVA?
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1565 on: March 20, 2021, 07:25:31 pm »
I'm having the same behavior. I got my SA yesterday, and I have not been able to get anything to work from flash; not the crossflash firmware, not the telnet ads, not even the Siglent newest 3.2.2.4 firmware (which is the same version that my SA came with as well). I hit Open/Load, the clock spins a bit, and then it comes back with "Upgrade Failed".

Should I be able to flash the device with the same version of firmware that it is currently running without an error?

I've tried multiple Thumb drives and copied the ADS file in the SA and did a diff on the files on my computer, and they the copy is the same as the original, so I don't think there is a problem my the SA's USB port.

 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1566 on: March 20, 2021, 07:26:26 pm »
Thanks TV - just for clarification, I was trying to use the Stock SVA Firmware - pulled from the Siglent Website.  I'll modify my post.
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1567 on: March 20, 2021, 07:35:29 pm »
I'm having the same behavior. I got my SA yesterday, and I have not been able to get anything to work from flash; not the crossflash firmware, ...

I corrected the previous crossflash FW. Try again with the new one.
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1568 on: March 20, 2021, 07:46:31 pm »
Tried the new Crossflash.  Same behavior as before.  Firmware Upgrade starts and then exits back to the File Explorer after 60 seconds.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1569 on: March 20, 2021, 07:47:56 pm »
Me too. Clocks a bit and jumps back with Update Failed. I've not even had the telnet ads work for me, though.

Kevin
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1570 on: March 20, 2021, 08:07:38 pm »
Perhaps.  One more finding, I tried to flash back the stock SSA+ Firmware and now lost the Tracking Generator  :palm: doesn't even show up as an option after what looked like a successful flash.

Can't Telnet in with this file.  Sits on Upgrade Screen for 60 seconds before exiting back to the File Explorer, same as any other ADS
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1571 on: March 20, 2021, 08:11:15 pm »
Perhaps.  One more finding, I tried to flash back the stock SSA+ Firmware and now lost the Tracking Generator  :palm: doesn't even show up as an option after what looked like a successful flash.

Can't Telnet in with this file.  Sits on Upgrade Screen for 60 seconds before exiting back to the File Explorer, same as any other ADS

Now, try again my crossflash FW.
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1572 on: March 20, 2021, 08:16:12 pm »
Same exit back to File Explorer screen after 60 seconds with latest crossflash file.
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1573 on: March 21, 2021, 12:18:19 am »
Got bored and decided to open up the case.  Got lucky and warranty sticker was intact without much effort.  Hooked up to the UART and could login with root/ding1234 then was able to enable Telnet with "/sbin/telnetd -l /bin/sh -p 10101 &"

After confirming that I had changed the <upgrade_static_id> to 11403, was still unable to use the crossflash firmware.  Decided to try to get the options back using post #1224: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-ssa3000x-spectrum-analyzers/msg3180802/#msg3180802 and that worked - only now I have more options than before, including VNA seemingly.

Current status attached:
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers
« Reply #1574 on: March 21, 2021, 08:41:05 am »
Hello
I see you have Ref option enabled
Does it work ?
Does it show up under Mode ? or Measurement.. ?
Tnx
 


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