And the VESA mount is exactly as expected, just 4 hard screw mounts on the back of the scope shell, which get blocked by attaching other (optionally available for extra charge) stands:
Not seamless, not integrated, another checkbox for marketing that although useful is massively overblown/misleading. Not embarrassed at all with my accurate prediction.
Why would you want to use the VESA mount with either of the stands? That makes no sense ![Confused :-//](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/confused0024.gif.pagespeed.ce.5xOqKkq0Co.gif)
The metal stand and VESA mount is the best thing about this scope IMO, it's very nicely integrated.
And the battery pack does have the VESA mount extended on the back of it, so they have clearly thought about this.
The quote is right there in full, have at it again:
Name another scope that:
- Moves seamlessly from bench use to portable use, with VESA mount and rack mount option.
We could equally take aim at your blind fanboy/marketing take, VESA mounts are notoriously not seamless for moving between mounted and mobile: "VESA mounting points on rear of instrument" of the standard type that is held in with screws. Perhpas if there were some tidy clip on/off accessory or mount that easily swapped with the battery pack you might have a point (particularly integrating power delivery), but there is nothing to suggest that in the material available.
I think the integral VESA mount is an excellent idea and will be well received. You might be a tad embaressed when you see how well it's all integrated.
And the VESA mount is exactly as expected, just 4 hard screw mounts on the back of the scope shell, which get blocked by attaching other (optionally available for extra charge) stands:
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Not seamless, not integrated, another checkbox for marketing that although useful is massively overblown/misleading. Not embarrassed at all with my accurate prediction.
I said it was going to be a set of hard mounting points that would preclude it from being portable if mounted. You said "nah uhh, I know the secret and its awesome". Oh look its not awesome, clever, or anything special. Just a straight out VESA mount that is mutually exclusive with portability.
But you want to argue you were still "right" somehow?
Marketing nonsense it exactly what you used to say you were immune to and would see through, but here you are trying to defend it.
Why all the anger? It's as if you are personally offended that Tektronix didn't make the exact product you demaded at the price you demanded ![Roll Eyes ::)](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif.pagespeed.ce.XcUK202Yqt.gif)
You clearly don't understand what's happening here.
VESA mounts are on the back of the scope AND battery pack, so you can mount the scope WITH or WITHOUT the battery pack to EITHER the sexy metal handle stand which has 4 angles of viewing depending on which (very nice) thumb screws you use and which way you orient it. Or you can use the plastic kick stand on EITHER the battery back version or direct on the scope.
You are demonstrably wrong that "Just a straight out VESA mount that is mutually exclusive with portability". Absolutely wrong. I have it here in front of me.
You keep making it out to be somehow counter/different to what I said. Its really simple....
there is a VESA mount
it could be attached to a standard monitor arm/stand
or one of their accessories
and is duplicated on the back of the battery pack so you can still use the same accessories when its fitted
.... then its a matter of interpretation. You pushed the marketing nonsense about it, and I quote verbatim:
Name another scope that:
- Moves seamlessly from bench use to portable use, with VESA mount and rack mount option.
It doesn't move seamlessly from bench to portable use, nothing clips on/off in a smooth motion. There is a VESA mount that things can be screwed onto, and to swap mount/position/use you need to unscrew the current mount and then screw on another (or in another position).
1000% not seamless, it looks like a stand is pretty much mandatory to use this scope with (such as the one included that offers different set/mounted angles) which immediately uses up the VESA mount. The stands/configurations are mutually exclusive, you can't pick it up off the tilting mount and have it sit flat. As others pointed out the size/weight of this makes the power cabling and probes a significant force (common to many of these small plastic scopes).
The only thing going for it is that it does have the VESA mounts. But you keep talking like they are more than just a set of dumb threaded holes. A nice feature, but not some ingeniously integrated design wonder that is making me embarrassed for correctly guessing they would be just some holes on the back of the scope.
No anger, just cutting through your fake shutting down of discussion by insisting you are the only voice. The selection of stands is something I see as a negative rather than a positive, they couldn't come up with a coherent design that covers the basic needs so instead offer "choices" that still aren't as practical/functional as the competition. Instead you keep chipping away and insinuating that I was somewhere incorrect, why post this constantly as contrary? We seem to agree on the actual facts, and disagree on your way of pushing them. I'll come back around with you doing again:
I don't care for this bullshit let's compare it to other 2000 series.. Only comparison is by price.
Yep, misleading comparisons to scopes half the price, thanks Tek + fanboy/booster/influencer Dave
Me a Tek fanboy? I absolutely savaged their MDO 3 series scope when it came out, so much so they didn't talk to me again until this.
And I have made absolutely no claims about price or comparisons, other than I said it was on par with the RTB2000 series base price.
The base model 70MHz 2CH version is US$1800 and the 4CH 70MHz is US$2740
The 2CH 70MHz RTB2002 is US$1730 at Tequipment, and US$2400 at Element 14, and the 4CH 70MHz RTB2004 is $2635, exactly on par in pricing as I said.
Yes the extras are expensive, it's Tektronix, only a fool would expect anything less.
and then almost immediately.... right back to making selective comparisons:
I see it the same way. Compared to RTB2004. Retail price, no promos etc.
And as with everything, price is a relative thing. For some that is expensive, for some that is pocket money.
Apart from the educational targeted TBS scopes that almost no one but educational instritutions buy, Tektronix have never offered true entry level prices scopes.
They have clearly targeted in pricing against the RTB2000 and Keysight 2000, as thier product comparison demonstrates:
That's you bringing up the aging Keysight 2000 series, as some desperate strawman. Who really would be thinking of a Keysight 2000 series in light of their 1000 series? Its marketing crap and you know it. Keeping on with that is why I'm calling this out as lazy pushing of the Tek marking points. No analysis, no independent view, regurgitated marketing non-lies (avoiding embarrassing truths).