Hacking the DSO2X1X

[DavidAlfa]

You're fine with the stock voltage for 650-780MHz, the performance isn't that noticeable except for some gui areas, the plots perform much the same, I tried up to 1GHz and went down to safer voltage levels and 784MHz for this reason.
Really, modifying the board doesn't worth it.

[jovan_kineas]

Read the faq! You don't need all that 

Hola, me parece que eres de España y hablas español como yo, yo en realidad no hablo ingles y traduzco lo que dice este foro usando Google, me puedes resolver unas dudas? Hago lo que dice el primer comentario de este hilo o lo que me siguieres es que hay otro método ahora mismo mas eficiente, he leído casi todo el hilo y no entiendo como hacer lo del archivo en formato UNIX dentro del pendrive. Ya lo intenté pero no comprendo esa parte. Gracias

[DavidAlfa]

Hi, what are you trying to do?
You don't need to make any hacky steps, there're lots of mods for almost anything, check the FAQ in my signature!
If still having questions, just ask!
Anyways, the difference between Windows and Unix text files lies in how a new line is made.
You can use Notepad++ in Windows, open the text file, navigate to:
  Edit->EOL Conversion->Windows/Unix
And save the changes.

Hola! Que es lo que quieres hacer? No necesitas hacer pasos complicados, hay muchos mods para realizas todo tipo de cosas.
Mira el FAQ en mi firma, si todavia te quedan dudas, pregunta!
En cualquier caso, la diferencia entre archivos de texto en formato Windows y Unix radica en el final de linea.
En Windows puedes usar Notepad++, abrir el archivo que quieres convertir, navegar a:
  Editar->Conversión fin de línea->Windows/Unix
Y guardar los cambios.

[jovan_kineas]

Hi, what are you trying to do?
You don't need to make any hacky steps, there're lots of mods for almost anything, check the FAQ in my signature!
If still having questions, just ask!
Anyways, the difference between Windows and Unix text files lies in how a new line is made.
You can use Notepad++ in Windows, open the text file, navigate to:
  Edit->EOL Conversion->Windows/Unix
And save the changes.

Hola! Que es lo que quieres hacer? No necesitas hacer pasos complicados, hay muchos mods para realizas todo tipo de cosas.
Mira el FAQ en mi firma, si todavia te quedan dudas, pregunta!
En cualquier caso, la diferencia entre archivos de texto en formato Windows y Unix radica en el final de linea.
En Windows puedes usar Notepad++, abrir el archivo que quieres convertir, navegar a:
  Editar->Conversión fin de línea->Windows/Unix
Y guardar los cambios.

Hola, gracias por responder tan rápido, yo tengo un DSO2D10 y deseo que sea un DSO2D15, he seguido lo que dice el este hilo en el primer comentario pero estoy atorado en 2 cosas principalmente al intentar el procedimiento: La primera es como crear un archivo llamado "do_other_update" sin extensión (.txt o alguna otra) y la siguiente es lo de hacer que este archivo esté con formato Unix (en lo cual creo que ya te entendí lo que me dijiste en tu respuesta anterior) ya que llevo muchos meses intentando el hack para tener 150Mhz como en el 2D15. Te pongo unas imágenes y así tal vez me puedes indicar que estoy haciendo mal al crear ese archivo. Muchas gracias.

[DavidAlfa]

Lee detenidamente lo que te he puesto, e insisto en que revises el FAQ aquí:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-hantek-dso2x1x-models/msg3559217/#msg3559217

Tienes paquetes automatizados para hacer todo eso y más.

[jovan_kineas]

Lee detenidamente lo que te he puesto, e insisto en que revises el FAQ aquí:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-hantek-dso2x1x-models/msg3559217/#msg3559217

Tienes paquetes automatizados para hacer todo eso y más.

Gracias, eso te iba a preguntar también, me da la impresión que haz desarrollado programas y herramientas que dejan ya obsoleto el procedimiento que yo estaba intentando, correcto? de ser así mejor haré tu tutorial. Veo ahí en una imagen que incluso tu investigación ha llegado al punto que hasta hiciste correr Doom en el osciloscopio. Entonces tu tutorial son todo ventajas por que tiene maneras de hacer backups y restablecer desde esos mismos backups, vaya eso es increible!

[DavidAlfa]

Si, antes de modificar nada haz backup con dsoflash y backup builder.
Luego simplemente instala dso2d15 conversion.

[jovan_kineas]

Si, antes de modificar nada haz backup con dsoflash y backup builder.
Luego simplemente instala dso2d15 conversion.

Muchas Gracias David, lo haré teniendo cuidado de respaldar como dices.

[jovan_kineas]

Si, antes de modificar nada haz backup con dsoflash y backup builder.
Luego simplemente instala dso2d15 conversion.

Hola muchas gracias, me fue un poco difícil después del DSOflash caer en cuenta que el Backup Builder y DSO2d15 Conversion se hacían desde un pendrive puesto en el mismo osciloscopio, pensaba que era en modo FEL como tenia que aplicarlos, pero ya pude y mi 2D10 se ha convertido en un 2D15 y tengo ambos backups en mi nube, muchas gracias por la ayuda que me haz dado. 

[BlownUpCapacitor]

Does anyone know if this hack really works with the newest firmware? (2023-7-28)

I tried to do it myself but it doesn't really seem to work. All that happens is that it just updates normally.

Maybe I just did it wrong?

Also, it turns out my DSO2C10 has all the components populated for the AWG function.

[DavidAlfa]

Read the FAQ in my signature.

[Goranotti]

Thanks guys, i follow your procedure and my DCO2C have wave generator now. Thanks!!!!

[BlownUpCapacitor]

Read the FAQ in my signature.

Thanks! After a while, I gained the courage to risk bricking my scope and turn my DSO2C10 into a DSO2D15. It worked without any problems on the first try! I first thought that I had to do a whole lot of shenanigans to hack it up to the DSO2D15, but after thoroughly reading your FAQ, I realized all I really had to do was make a backup, which was easy, and update it with the automatic updater!

[kakas]

So in your DSO2C10 the AWG circuits were populated? Have you purchased this recently?
If I purchase a DSO2C10 now what is the chance that it is not populated for AWG? 

[Algoma]

I have not seen anyone report the parts were missing reciently. Seems consistently the same production design on the inside.

Though it would be good to get some updated photos inside of a newer model, to see if there have been any significant hardware revisions.

[BlownUpCapacitor]

My DSO2C10 I bought a year and a quarter ago from amazon. But looking online, it looks like not much has changed.

I also would think it would be cheaper to keep manufacturing one scope for 4 different types of scopes instead of 2 different scopes, one for one with AWG, and one with no AWG components. Keep the manufacturing process simple.

However, it also looks like some people have gotten scopes without the populated components for AWG, so not a 100% guarantee.

But now, I wouldn't quite recommend buying the Hatek, especially since the new Rigol DHO800 is only $100 more. It may not have AWG, but it's 12bit and you can probably hack it up to the better models as well.

With my experience, the Hantek is not very good. It's not very responsive to controls, but then again it costs less than $200 USD and you can hack it up to a DSO2C15 without the AWG if it doesn't have the AWG components.

[viktor63]

by: BlownUpCapacitor \With my experience, the Hantek is not very good. It's not very responsive to controls,\\
The only problem is the cheap components, I installed decent encoders and all the problems disappeared https://www.arrow.com/en/products/pec12r-4220f-s0024/bourns

[copper2000]

hello of the whole thread I read, but nowhere did I come across whether anyone tried to increase the AWG frequency set ?, generator, thank you for the answer

edit, does a man get a reply here? Or is the forum dead?

im sory im translate gooogle

[marcelogda]

I received my DSO2D10 (considering shipping to Brazil, it was the cheapest) a few days ago and was able to update to 2D15 without any problems. I also applied the mods for the conversion to png and small fonts. Thank you very much DavidAlfa and everyone who contributed to the improvements.

[dirtmover]

....I also would think it would be cheaper to keep manufacturing one scope for 4 different types of scopes instead of 2 different scopes, one for one with AWG, and one with no AWG components. Keep the manufacturing process simple.

Yes, it's not just the manufacturing cost. It can also be a huge benefit to inventory management. Rather than having to guess what's going to sell they can have a single scope on the shelf and assign its model at the last moment with a small file system change and the appropriate sticker on the front panel.

[uski]

Greetings everyone!

Did a new year refresh on my DSO2C10 that I previously converted to a 2D15.
- Flashed 3205_B205 (filefrom the FAQ)
- Flashed 2023.08.31 (file also from the FAQ)

All went OK, no issues, hack is still there.

Additionally I performed the overclocking.
Where/how do we change the Vcore settings? The overclocking script from the FAQ only offers PLL changes.

Here are the settings I used, a moderate overclock because I couldn't touch Vcore and also didn't want to have to add heatsinks etc.:

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CPU_OC_PLL_N=28
CPU_OC_PLL_K=0
CPU_OC_PLL_M=0

MEM_OC_PLL_N=14
MEM_OC_PLL_K=0
MEM_OC_PLL_M=0

I initially changed the CPU to 720 MHz - it was stable (I turned FFT on to strain the CPU a bit), but I wanted to be extra safe, so I dialed it back one notch.
This changes the CPU to 696 MHz. I then overclocked the RAM to 360 MHz and did not try to go further.
I might have been able to go higher, but did not see the need to. This already makes the UI much more responsive!

Hope this helps someone by providing an additional data point. Always test before installing the overclocking.

[DavidAlfa]

You can't in software, only by modifying the Vcore regulator in the board.
No need todo so, I went to 1GHz at 1.35V with no real performance gain in the scope software, it's the FPGA-CPU interface causing the bottleneck (And terrible software design).

Don't worry about going too high on cpu speed, system will simply crash, you can always recover following the instructions.
The CPU was barely warm to the touch even at 1GHz, maybe 50°C.

Ram has very little room for OC, mine freezes when cold, so I simply leave it at default speed.

[carlonb]

@davidAlfa

Yes, just create the file in any way you want, the contents don't matter!
Made some modifications, as I realised you couldn't set an older date if for any reason you wanted so.
Now it also tracks the timestamp of the date file, updating the system date when it changes.
Made UPK packages and update FAQ.

Hi David,
As I'm waiting for a RTC module to hack the DSO with a "permanent" time-stamp, so may I have a copy of your UPK file for update the actual with a USB stick ? I want to start and learning trying this "volatile" way.

P.S. I searched for it but non found on FAQ, perhaps made useless by the RCT h/w modification.
Thanks

[DavidAlfa]

Yeah it existed for a short time, but completely replaced by the RTC mod.
The original mod was deleted, I don't have it anymore.

[carlonb]

@morgan_flint
@david_alfa
Ok David I understand, may be morgan_flint (if still present on this forum) or someone else may have a copy of this.
Thanks again