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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #575 on: September 08, 2017, 03:38:29 am »
No serial data in/out. So not sure how data is being written to the EEPROM.

The same way it's read out on power-up...



My guess would be with something like this.


As for my earlier concerns about "wasting" $10; since everybody is rushing to "correct that pricing error", I feel much more sanguine about the whole deal.   :phew:

I agree with MacMeter... having a meter you don't give a damn about can be a useful thing; it's part of how I still have the same 1st gen 87 almost 30 years later.
I made sure every time I had me a "Here, hold my beer and watch this...   :-/O :-BROKE " moment, I was using a cheapie meter as a sacrificial element, not my Fluke.  :-DD

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #576 on: September 08, 2017, 07:40:59 am »


My guess would be with something like this.


As for my earlier concerns about "wasting" $10; since everybody is rushing to "correct that pricing error", I feel much more sanguine about the whole deal.   :phew:

I agree with MacMeter... having a meter you don't give a damn about can be a useful thing; it's part of how I still have the same 1st gen 87 almost 30 years later.
I made sure every time I had me a "Here, hold my beer and watch this...   :-/O :-BROKE " moment, I was using a cheapie meter as a sacrificial element, not my Fluke.  :-DD

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I tend to feel the same way, but am well aware of how silly that is. You have a meter that's built to withstand serious abuse and you protect and baby it. Instead, you use another meter that's much more likely to die in the line of fire and to do so in a spectaculair and possibly dangerous fashion.
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #577 on: September 08, 2017, 12:36:22 pm »
i see eneloops - did you try alkaline batteries?
i dont think the meter works properly at 2.4v

I'm also using Eneloops in mine. Works astonishingly well. If you put load on Alkalines they'll also drop below 1.2V rather quickly even with plenty of charge in them. I think it is considered good design being able to work with a cell voltage of 1.2V and quite a bit below to make use of the as much charge as possible. Also nowadays voltage regulation is cheap and quite good so there's little reason not to use the capacity properly.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #578 on: September 08, 2017, 12:39:45 pm »
i see eneloops - did you try alkaline batteries?
i dont think the meter works properly at 2.4v

I'm also using Eneloops in mine. Works astonishingly well. If you put load on Alkalines they'll also drop below 1.2V rather quickly even with plenty of charge in them. I think it is considered good design being able to work with a cell voltage of 1.2V and quite a bit below to make use of the as much charge as possible. Also nowadays voltage regulation is cheap and quite good so there's little reason not to use the capacity properly.

Damn. I was hoping to find a use for Batteroo.

 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #579 on: September 08, 2017, 04:27:14 pm »
but isnt 2.4v the threshold for low battery warning & shutdown?
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #580 on: September 08, 2017, 05:51:25 pm »
After reading all the forum's threads about ANENG 8008 I said myself: "You do NOT need another multimeter, you already have 7 of them" but at this price I could not resist: I ordered one.
It was delivered today.
A first check against my UT-61e showed that is was working as specified.
Opened it for a quick check of soldering quality, and I was pleasantly surprised: no problems or defects.
The only dislike is the display contrast and wiew angle: it is clear only when reading from below, with the meter placed horizontally.
I made some photos of my  8  multimeters, to post in the appropropriate thread: the best display was  the one on the Wavetek (a.k.a.  Meterman ) 5XL, a 3.5 digits, 15 years old basic meter using the standard 7106 chip.

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #581 on: September 08, 2017, 06:39:54 pm »
After reading all the forum's threads about ANENG 8008 I said myself: "You do NOT need another multimeter, you already have 7 of them"

What kind of silly thought process is that?
Just because you only have two hands (I suppose you follow the general mold)  is no reason to restrict the number of DMM's. If the DMM is interesting and/or it has a special function it is a very good reason to get it (I have a bit more than 7 or 8 DMM's).
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #582 on: September 08, 2017, 07:23:18 pm »
After reading all the forum's threads about ANENG 8008 I said myself: "You do NOT need another multimeter, you already have 7 of them"

What kind of silly thought process is that?
Just because you only have two hands (I suppose you follow the general mold)  is no reason to restrict the number of DMM's. If the DMM is interesting and/or it has a special function it is a very good reason to get it (I have a bit more than 7 or 8 DMM's).
 :)
It's true, I did not realize this.
After an accurate search in the lab I found another one, so I have 9 multimeters.
Nine is an odd number, so today I ordered one AN8002 (I thought that I needed another multimeter that could measure temperature)  :-+

I also realize that this is my 500th post in the Forum.
I want to thank every member for the help that they offered me when needed.
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #583 on: September 08, 2017, 07:33:46 pm »
damn i feel unequiped - i only have 4 multimeters.  :o
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #584 on: September 08, 2017, 08:47:59 pm »
Wow, only 4? :o :-DD Well, I guess you've lucked out with the recent growth in inexpensive DMMs. :-DMM
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #585 on: September 08, 2017, 08:52:33 pm »
damn i feel unequiped - i only have 4 multimeters.  :o

Hmmh...if you use clips for ground,  you can hold one 1 probe in your left hand, 1 in your right hand and maybe 1 in your mouth? That 3 concurrent measurements, so 4 multimeters should be sufficient? 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #586 on: September 08, 2017, 11:44:14 pm »
i do have 3 scopes - maybe i need an equal number of scopes!

oh wait, i also have a Tektronix waveform/vector analyser - maybe that counts as a 4th scope?  >:D
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #587 on: September 09, 2017, 03:16:38 am »
i do have 3 scopes - maybe i need an equal number of scopes!

I think there's some catching up to do in that department: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/why-does-everyone-have-twenty-oscilliscopes/ :o
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #588 on: September 09, 2017, 04:03:37 am »
I could probably round up around 40 scopes.   I really only use three...  for analog a Tek SC504 (sold my 475+DMM... probably a mistake... they were probably one of the best general purpose analog scopes ever made).   

For digital a (fully optioned) Tek 3054B and a THS730 handheld.  I probably use the THS730 the most... about the size of a book,  2 GS/sec,  battery operated, fully isolated channels.  I have fancier scopes, but they seldom get used.

A friend of mine bought a pallet of "defective" 475's.   He thought he was bidding on only one scope.  The defect in all of them...  the voltage selector was set to 220V.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #589 on: September 09, 2017, 01:19:52 pm »
Wow, only 4? :o :-DD Well, I guess you've lucked out with the recent growth in inexpensive DMMs. :-DMM

After a few weeks living with them, my favorite is the ANENG AN860B+.

Normally I'm in the "smaller is better" camp but I definitely prefer using it over the AN8008 for some reason, ie. If both meters are within reach then the 860B+ is the one I'll grab.  :-//

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #590 on: September 09, 2017, 01:45:55 pm »
Wow, only 4? :o :-DD Well, I guess you've lucked out with the recent growth in inexpensive DMMs. :-DMM

After a few weeks living with them, my favorite is the ANENG AN860B+.

Normally I'm in the "smaller is better" camp but I definitely prefer using it over the AN8008 for some reason, ie. If both meters are within reach then the 860B+ is the one I'll grab.  :-//

YMMV

I don't have 8008 or 8002, but I prefer to take the DT830D sometimes over the AN860B+. Simply because it's smaller, I can do continuity checks faster and don't have to worry as much about the meter.
But for resistance or other measurements (other than some rough quick checks), auto ranging seems to be helpful.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #591 on: September 09, 2017, 04:45:45 pm »
My AN8008 finally shut off after running non-stop for over 16 days. I never saw the low battery indicator appear on screen. I had just checked it late yesterday afternoon and there was no low battery warning, but this morning it was dead. So it must not appear until only a few percent of battery life remains. I checked the two batteries when I took them out for recharge and they were at 1.219 and 1.225 volts. The batteries used were regular (non-eneloop type) Energizer brand NiMH rated 850 mAH.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #592 on: September 09, 2017, 05:12:35 pm »
that depends on how much you hacked it,
normally you only get the low-battery warning for 6 seconds - then it shuts off.

options are, warning 1-15 seconds then off, or warnings but no power-off.
atleast i think it's that - maybe it suppresses the warning too - i'v not tried setting that to 0.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #593 on: September 09, 2017, 06:11:36 pm »
What? You don't get any warning until just seconds before it goes dead? That's useless. My other meters will run for hours with the low battery indicator on.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #594 on: September 09, 2017, 06:17:56 pm »
What? You don't get any warning until just seconds before it goes dead? That's useless.

It's going to depend on the battery type.

All batteries have a moment where the voltage suddenly falls off a cliff. If your battery type does this above the cutoff voltage of the meter then you won't get much warning.

Somebody with a fancy power supply could determine the cutoff voltage...  :popcorn:


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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #595 on: September 09, 2017, 06:38:46 pm »
it's down to the settings in the eeprom - that's why we change them a bit.

my aneng (and ut210e) both run for an hour before any warnings, and the backlight stays on till i decide otherwise.
my ut210e is now 10,000 count too!!  >:D
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #596 on: September 10, 2017, 04:48:53 am »
(SNIP)

I agree with MacMeter... having a meter you don't give a damn about can be a useful thing; it's part of how I still have the same 1st gen 87 almost 30 years later.
I made sure every time I had me a "Here, hold my beer and watch this...   :-/O :-BROKE " moment, I was using a cheapie meter as a sacrificial element, not my Fluke.  :-DD

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I tend to feel the same way, but am well aware of how silly that is. You have a meter that's built to withstand serious abuse and you protect and baby it. Instead, you use another meter that's much more likely to die in the line of fire and to do so in a spectaculair and possibly dangerous fashion.

Well... the difference is that you pay the big bucks for when you HAVE TO GET the measurement, and so that when you ACCIDENTALLY do something stupid, it doesn't kill you or the meter. The times when you KNOW you're doing something stupid... that's when you want a "burner" instrument. ;)

i do have 3 scopes - maybe i need an equal number of scopes!

oh wait, i also have a Tektronix waveform/vector analyser - maybe that counts as a 4th scope?  >:D


*Hangs head in shame*  :palm:

I had to clear out my storage and parted with a number of my babies... I now "only" have my first Tek, a 465 which still has the ubiquitous intermittent HV fault... A 2230 that is on the bench for its 3rd rebuild of the voltage doubler/flyback... A 2465 bought on fleaBay that I can trace back to NASA and a 2465B inherited from my last corporate gig... and my new DS1054... oh, and a "parts" 2465. And an old Hitachi V-212 I keep just because it has a curve tracer hooked up to it... No, REALLY... that's ALL...  :-DD

Sonufacrap... wait... I have  a Clone 16-CH logic analyzer too... Dammit, whatever you've got, it's contagious!!!  |O


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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #597 on: September 10, 2017, 12:21:19 pm »
well space is an issue for a lot of us, i really couldnt get any more scopes of the classic type - something like a rigol,yes.
but no space for any more crt scopes.  :(
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #598 on: September 12, 2017, 07:39:22 am »
So, both of these meters have 1000V CAT II, 600V CAT III on the front panel  :o



On a side note, bought three of the AN8008 meters off ebay and they arrived within 1 week, fairly well packaged too (meter itself in bubble wrap, then bubble wrapped again with the accessories). Seems to do the business for non-mains work.
 

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« Reply #599 on: September 12, 2017, 08:59:03 am »
On a side note, bought three of the AN8008 meters off ebay ... seems to do the business for non-mains work.

...unless you want to measure milliamps.
 


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