Looking for best clone JBC tip

[Sajid]

I am looking for best clone JBC tips mainly C245 on Aliexpress. there are brands like Aixun, Magma, Mechanic etc. which brands will perform best and last longer?
Thanks

[digger]

i've never used clone carts, but i would take a look at aixun's premium line:
https://www.aixuntech.com/product/c245-high-level-nano-lead-free-soldering-iron-tip-for-jbc-iron-head-replacement/

their regular line is supposedly junk:
https://www.aixuntech.com/product/c245-soldering-iron-tips-/

[DavidAlfa]

Don't. All clones are pretty much junk.

[Sajid]

which brands did you use and what are their shortcomings?

[digger]

which brands did you use and what are their shortcomings?

jbc; price

[Sajid]

what you meant by jbc; price?

[digger]

brands i've used: jbc
shortcomings: high price of cartridges

[Arts]

If you want to get the longest life and the best performance, just spend the money and buy a real JBC tip.

Do you know why all of the JBC clone tips are soooo cheap? Because they are crap. Period.
Poor materials, sloppy manufacturing and no knowledge of nor investment in proper engineering.
If any of that clone garbage was worth a crap JBC would have been out of business and ceased to exist long ago.

[Sajid]

I don't have money to buy overpriced JBC tips and this doesn't answer my question. I didn't ask for any of this.

[Someone]

I don't have money to buy overpriced JBC tips and this doesn't answer my question. I didn't ask for any of this.

Perhaps they are not overpriced, but in fact fairly priced by market forces?
People have already given several consistent responses that alternatives are bad value for money.

[thm_w]

If you want to get the longest life and the best performance, just spend the money and buy a real JBC tip.

Do you know why all of the JBC clone tips are soooo cheap? Because they are crap. Period.
Poor materials, sloppy manufacturing and no knowledge of nor investment in proper engineering.
If any of that clone garbage was worth a crap JBC would have been out of business and ceased to exist long ago.

Competing companies like Thermaltronics and Pace are able to make high quality tips and sell them for $10-15. The only reason JBC tips cost more than that is because they build in a higher profit margin.

Clone tips are only recently becoming more available in various tip shapes (other than the 3 standard we had for years). So to say they'd be out of business long ago is not realistic, regardless of the quality.

Perhaps they are not overpriced, but in fact fairly priced by market forces?
People have already given several consistent responses that alternatives are bad value for money.

Some are definitely bad value for money as we've had photo teardowns showing as such. Though some may not be. There are just too many companies making them to make a blanket statement without a project farm style test suite, imo.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/why-you-dont-want-to-buy-aixun-t245-tips/

[Geoff-AU]

I don't have money to buy overpriced JBC tips and this doesn't answer my question. I didn't ask for any of this.

You probably shouldn't be using a JBC iron (or worse, a clone that specs JBC tips).

They're not overpriced, they just don't suit your use-case.  Big difference.  The people who know and appreciate the benefits a genuine tip provides are happily paying for them, because the labour savings are worth it for them.

[thm_w]

You probably shouldn't be using a JBC iron (or worse, a clone that specs JBC tips).

They're not overpriced, they just don't suit your use-case.  Big difference.  The people who know and appreciate the benefits a genuine tip provides are happily paying for them, because the labour savings are worth it for them.

$100 clone stations are effectively as good as a normal JBC station for most use cases. The tips are completely interchangeable.

https://youtu.be/4dOrV8wTkaw?t=1839

[Sajid]

did you forgot to tell me that what should I use then?

[digger]

did you forgot to tell me that what should I use then?

no:

i've never used clone carts, but i would take a look at aixun's premium line:
https://www.aixuntech.com/product/c245-high-level-nano-lead-free-soldering-iron-tip-for-jbc-iron-head-replacement/

their regular line is supposedly junk:
https://www.aixuntech.com/product/c245-soldering-iron-tips-/

as i said, look at aixun's premium/high-level/nano/whatever-they-call-it line of carts. it's the only one i've read even a single flattering comment about, and yes, it was just one comment.

most people are not writing about clone carts because most people are not using clone carts. jbc carts are expensive, but they're still relatively cheap compared to their stations. that's why most people with fake stations buy the real carts.

[woody]

You probably shouldn't be using a JBC iron (or worse, a clone that specs JBC tips).

They're not overpriced, they just don't suit your use-case.  Big difference.  The people who know and appreciate the benefits a genuine tip provides are happily paying for them, because the labour savings are worth it for them.

$100 clone stations are effectively as good as a normal JBC station for most use cases. The tips are completely interchangeable.

https://youtu.be/4dOrV8wTkaw?t=1839

Ah, but those cloners don't have this:

https://www.jbctools.com/clmu-a-senior-tip-cleaner-metal-brushes-product-1474.html

 

[Sajid]

Ah, but those cloners don't have this:

what is your point actually?