Definitely some things that could be changed, though I'll take my time with a response so it's not stupid. Just wanted to point out one thing - I was trying to figure out what the heck you were doing with the long-tailed pair, until I realized it's not a long-tailed pair, it's just Q1 and Q3 in parallel. Might want to rearrange those to make the arrangement more clear.
I will certainly do that, this is not the final version of the schematic.
Here are my comment with a glance: D1 is shorted. It needs to connect to ground. Plus putting both Qs in the same loop will probably make it oscillate. It's better to have 1 op-amp per transistor. Also probably you will need some capacitance in these FB loops.
Your right about D1, I will be removing that and probably doing something else for over-voltage protection, in any case there is quite a wide margin for up to 60V input.
I'm no expert with op-amps but why would 1 op-amp driving two transistors be more unstable than 1 op-amp per transistor ?
I'll just list a couple quick ones, first:
- If you use MOSFETs as the actual load transistors, you won't need that Darlington-esque configuration.
- The clamping arrangement with OA3 and D1 is not good. You'll be directly shorting the output of OA3, which it won't like very much, and with that much current through a 5.1V Zener, there is no way you are going to clamp the voltage to 5V anyway. Use a lower Zener (4.7V, maybe) with a series resistor to limit clamp current (connect the negative feedback to the op amp after the series resistor to counteract any leakage through the diode)
- What on earth is Q5 doing? I'm not sure what's going on there, but I do know one thing - the voltage put out by OA2 is going to be subtracted by Q5's VBE, which will be highly variable, so it's kind of pointless to put it through the ADC.
- What is the point of C2?
- If C4 is supposed to be filtering the DAC input, there should be a resistor between the DAC and C4 to form a low-pass filter. Otherwise, you're just asking the DAC to drive a capacitive load, which it may or may not like, but it won't do you any good.
- What is the point of C1? It is highly likely to cause instability.
- Even without C1 this is likely to be unstable. You will need at least some capacitance between the OA1's output and inverting input.
- The only time you need an LC filter on the power supply is if you're trying to do it without a regulator at all, which you're clearly not. Even then, a 1 mH inductor isn't going to help much at mains frequencies. The inductors they use for that are as big as transformers.
- The large value of R18 (LED resistor) suggests a relatively high input voltage, so those voltage regulators are going to get very hot. (That, or the voltage is not high and the LED will be very dim.)
- The +15V is fused at 5A? What kind of regulator is that? Have you looked at the power and temperature calculations for that regulator putting out 5A? Even with just 17V in, it's going to be dissipating 10W. (My suggestion is not to use a bigger regulator with a better heatsink, but to design this not to need that much current. I'm also building a load and it can draw 10A while running off a 9V battery.)
I plan to use only MOSFET pass transistors in the final schematic, I use the BJTs because I have a bunch of 2N3055 laying around.
I did not really think D1 through
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Q5 was just intended as a buffer (emitter-follower) although I can't really see a point of it now.
I originally put C2 to filter noise, looking at it now I think putting it in parallel with R11 would be a much better idea.
C4 is just for de-bouncing the switch, I will probably change that to be part of the digital board in any case.
C1 I have no idea why I put there, I will move it between the output and inverting input of OA1 as you suggested and knock down the value a bit.
As for the CLC filter on the supply I assumed that would decrease ripple, a quick simulation certainly supports that but if you have any other reasons why it's a bad idea besides cost I'd like to know.
R18 is high because I find most LEDs are way too bright for my tastes above a few mA, the peak input voltage is expected to be around 19V from a 15VAC transformer, I will move the LED to the 5V in any case.
As for the 15V and 5V I'm still not fully decided on those, power dissipation isn't really a huge issue as they will be mounted to fairly good heatsinks, perhaps I will design a buck converter instead at a later stage.
You will not get 150W from a 2N3055, and you will get a big current error due to the large base current that will be included in the current measurement but will not go through the load.
Using MOSFETs rated for Safe Operating Area in the DC linear mode is much better, but as discussed many times before, the best way to have multiple mosfets in an active load is to have a seperate regulator circuit for each MOSFET.
Transistors are easier to parallel (with an emitter resistor in each) and you could drive with a MOSFET connected from the transistor common base connection to the common collector connection. This arrangement will mean the current in the load is not identical to the current in the sense resistor.
What is the minimum load voltage you need?
By the way, you will need a powerful sense resistor - at least 10W, but it will get hot, and that could cause it to drift. You might be better off going for lower offset opamps and a sense resistor of 1mohm.
I'd did not really think the current error through, as said before I will be going to MOSFETs in my final design.
As I asked before what is the advantage of using op-amps for each transistor rather than just one?
The minimum load voltage I expect to be a few volt, granted I will probably not get 300W at such low voltages without exceeding the transistor current ratings but I don't really mind that.
I was planning to use a large power sense resistor, although using low offset op-amps also seems like a good idea, it really depends what is easier for me to get and price.
This current source regulator arrangement without any frequency is usually unstable except it can be stable for very low sense resistor values. With 7.5mOhms, you might be lucky, but otherwise you will need to add a 10K resistor from the regulator opamp input to the sense resistor, a capacitor from OA1 inverting input to output (maybe 1nF ?), and a 100 ohm to 1K resistor from the output to each IRF510 is a good idea. Not sure what the 10K on the opamp output does - delete it.
Once you divert the power transistors' base currents back to the load as I suggested above, the 15V rail power consumption will drop from many amps to down in the 10's of mA. Definitely make sure the LED gets a decent amount of current - several mAs at least.
If you are going to add fuses, put them before the regulator not after. Fuses are resistors and so they degrade the regulation of the supply rails.
I'm not that experienced with op-amps in terms of stability, could you suggest any reading material on the subject?
What is the purpose of adding series resistors to MOSFETs, I was under the impression they draw very little current, the only thing I can think of is it would increase the turn on time.
The 10k on the output is to ensure the MOSFETs turn off, this is not needed ?
I'm not sure what you mean by a 10k resistor on the op-amp input to the sense resistor.
Diverting the transistor base current to the load ? you mean using the load to drive the transistor base current ? wouldn't that increase power draw from the load ?
As said before I prefer my LEDs to be dim.
The fuses before the regulator is an excellent point I will be sure to change it.
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Regarding the Zener diode (more schematic pickiness, really) - don't just label it with the part number, put the Zener voltage as well. I was mildly annoyed to have to dig through a datasheet to see that it was a 5.1V diode. It can also be useful to label values of other parts/systems that are not immediately evident (operating points, op amp/voltage divider gains, the power supply voltage, etc.)
Be careful when designing in fuses. Carelessness quite often leads to your semiconductors protecting the fuses, rather than the other way around, and I suspect that is going to happen here. It's just reckless to fuse a 30A load at 50A, unless it's so massively overengineered that it really can tolerate 50A.
At 30A that current sense resistor will be dissipating 6.75W. Can it handle it? What about temperature rise and temperature coefficient?
Read that again - the 7.5 milliohm resistor will be dissipating 6.75W. 7.5 milliohm is not an unreasonable resistance for a wire. You're going to need some massively heavy wires and massively thick PCB traces. (At such a high current, I'd probably try not to run the current through the PCB at all. Transistors and sense resistor can both be external.)
As mentioned before this is only a draft schematic, the final one will be of very high quality as is usual with most of my schematics.
The 50A fuse is a bit extreme I agree, maybe I can find something decent just over 30A, I don't expect it ever to blow unless there is a totally catastrophic failure, I plan to add thermal cutouts as well.
I need to take a closer look at what current shunt resistors are available, I was planning on using a large one in any case with thick wiring (8awg maybe?) to avoid voltage drop, only low current stuff and the digital control board will be on PCB, maybe the power supply as well.
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