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Online pet_rushiTopic starter

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Super easy composite amplifier utilizing LM3886/76!
« on: July 19, 2024, 05:41:13 am »
Hello guys,
For a year or so I put a lot of effort into building a replica of a famous composite amp (https://www.kaltecs.com/60w-ultra-low-distortion-kit/) utilizing TDA7293/4 but as I failed to find a suitable op amp and after a few tossed power chips I shifted my attention to LM38xx series power chips (1).
The main difficulty with TDA chips was the lack of open loop gain/phase/frequency graphics in the datasheet.
As TI provides such info for LM chips it took me just a few days to build a very stable and really nicely sounding composite.
The principal circuit is the same (https://www.kaltecs.com/tda7293-composite-amplifier/), just the power chip is different.
So I got lucky with LM power chips. The op amp which fits best is OPA1692 from TI (4). It's an excellent op amp, not very popular among DIY circles.
The gain is 11 and the amp is absolutely stable. With +/-33.5V PSU it provides around 50W. The lack of a snubber is not accidental. It is not needed and degrades the performance near the clipping.
The open loop gain is boosted by ~50dB and the THD goes below -115 -118dB.
The sound is sonically neutral and extremely pleasant.
If someone wishes to design a PCB I may help.

(1) - https://www.kaltecs.com/60w-ultra-low-distortion-kit/
(2) - https://www.kaltecs.com/tda7293-composite-amplifier/
(3) - https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm3886.pdf
(4) - https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/opa1692.pdf?ts=1721349674681&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F
« Last Edit: July 20, 2024, 01:29:40 am by pet_rushi »
 
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Re: Super easy composite amplifier utilizing LM3886/76!
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2024, 06:27:09 am »
There is a published paper: https://www.omicron-lab.com/fileadmin/assets/Bode_100/Articles_UseCases/Jan_Petrik/OpampSpiceModel.pdf
in which the author, Jan Petrik, does detailed frequency response measurements of the TDA7293, I was able to take those curves and reconstruct a SPICE model following the advice in the article. I ended up with a reasonably close facsimile of the TDA7293 for modelling purposes, I didn't bother with the output impedance just the gain/phase/frequency relationship.
 

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Re: Super easy composite amplifier utilizing LM3886/76!
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2024, 06:33:02 am »
Wow, that is great! Thanks
 

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Re: Super easy composite amplifier utilizing LM3886/76!
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2024, 12:06:30 pm »
Interesting.
How are you measuring the distortion? At what power level and frequency?
I have quite a few of these chips waiting for a worthy project.
 

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Re: Super easy composite amplifier utilizing LM3886/76!
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2024, 06:38:01 pm »
I measured the distortions using my own setup:
1. this oscillator - https://www.kaltecs.com/ultra-low-distortion-oscillator/
2. -70dB active 1kHz notch1
3. low-noise 66dB gain amp
4. -70dB active 1kHz notch2
5. low-noise 60dB gain amp
6. 60/120Hz -30dB passive notch
7. FFA oscilloscope (BW-10kHz)
8. Excel spreadsheet

The measured distortions -> -116.5dB +/-2.5dB

A friend of mine measured the distortion in a local college lab (BW=22kHz AP2700) -> -114.5dB
 


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Re: Super easy composite amplifier utilizing LM3886/76!
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2024, 06:07:08 am »
I know all those threads.
Diyaudio.com banned me for no reason when I posted this circuit there.
I'm sure they have financial interest in some of the amplifiers discussed there and don't allow anything to interfere to that.
Very, very sad!
 


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