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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #325 on: April 10, 2016, 01:47:26 pm »
So David K. got more than 1600 votes in less than 24h? You really have to wonder  :-//
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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #326 on: April 10, 2016, 03:28:20 pm »
My sisters personally appealed to an (real life,  in person) audience of a few thousand to vote. An audience that knows and trusts them. No spike in votes.

Another friend that runs a large group in my industry personally appealed to a few thousand people. No spike in votes.

I have had a number of big Twitter users send tweets - including Dave with 26k following. No spike in votes.

Overall, my campaign efforts have reached a massive audience. After some of my socially connected friends got a hold of it - the word spread fast. The actual voters diminish very very rapidly as they get further away from me that knows me personally or don't know anything about the contest. If I ran a prime time TV commercial, I don't think it would result in a vote spike either.

That is how it works. That is normal.

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #327 on: April 10, 2016, 04:03:28 pm »
I've been keeping some figures myself - and I've borrowed ChunkyPastaSauce's idea and charted them.  It won't have the same data points, so the exact shape might be a bit different - but the trends will be much the same...

Edit: (Yes, the dates are DD/MM/YY - and the times are Sydney time)
I've only published this because of David K's phenomenal surge...
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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #328 on: April 10, 2016, 06:08:38 pm »
I'm mind there is only one place those huge jumps are comming from.
 

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #329 on: April 10, 2016, 09:58:27 pm »
These graphs would be way more exciting if you guys scaled the X-axis over the duration of the contest, so we could see how much time is left on the clock.   8)
 

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #330 on: April 11, 2016, 12:28:33 am »
These graphs would be way more exciting if you guys scaled the X-axis over the duration of the contest, so we could see how much time is left on the clock.   8)

I second this.  From start to end
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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #331 on: April 11, 2016, 12:38:07 am »
These graphs would be way more exciting if you guys scaled the X-axis over the duration of the contest, so we could see how much time is left on the clock.   8)

I second this.  From start to end

I had to leave town so have fallen behind on the chart over the weekend. Ill make this change and start again by tomorrow
 

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #332 on: April 11, 2016, 02:51:21 am »
In the mean time....

The date/time has been changed to MST, as this is the reference given in the competition.  The start point has been set at the beginning of April 1st and the end is set for midnight MST of the 15th.  (Dates are still DD/MM/YY)

 - Carlos maintains a steady climb, although the slope of that increase has dropped off ever so slightly from a couple of days ago.
 - David continues with his lurch and rest pattern and looked like he was going to surpass Nilu.
 - Nilu continues to keep the lead, and in the last 24 hours seems to have double her rate of increase.  What is she feeding them?

One wonders what is next.
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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #333 on: April 11, 2016, 03:35:24 am »
These graphs would be way more exciting if you guys scaled the X-axis over the duration of the contest, so we could see how much time is left on the clock.   8)

I second this.  From start to end

The graph would be more exciting if the orange line was on top :)
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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #334 on: April 11, 2016, 05:21:34 am »
So it is at an all new level now - I just got a spam email from someone that wanted to sell me votes. That is right - they are direct marketing to me now.


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Hello,

Do you need votes for your entry Carlos ?

http://www.keysight.com/*********************************
I can help you to get votes.

I charge for votes.

let me know how many votes youw ant.

Any question? please ask.

Thank you


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I am sure this entity is a pleasure to do business with, lol, but right now I feel remarkably rotten that I have rallied countless family, friends, and complete strangers into helping win an un-winnable contest. A TON of people have written posts on Facebook. Sent messages to their friends. People I went to high-school with, some that I have worked with, and some I have never met. It feels really great that all this support has come my way to help win this thing - but did I ask these people to waste all their time? Did I just call in 25 years worth of favors and good-will for nothing?




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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #335 on: April 11, 2016, 05:49:56 am »
So it is at an all new level now - I just got a spam email from someone that wanted to sell me votes. That is right - they are direct marketing to me now.


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Hello,

Do you need votes for your entry Carlos ?

http://www.keysight.com/*********************************
I can help you to get votes.

I charge for votes.

let me know how many votes youw ant.

Any question? please ask.

Thank you


Did this come from this forum (via PM) ?    If not how would they find you?

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #336 on: April 11, 2016, 05:55:47 am »
This was a direct email that I assume was farmed from the links posted all over social media - Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit.
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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #337 on: April 11, 2016, 05:59:04 am »
So it is at an all new level now - I just got a spam email from someone that wanted to sell me votes. That is right - they are direct marketing to me now.


Code: [Select]
Hello,

Do you need votes for your entry Carlos ?

http://www.keysight.com/*********************************
I can help you to get votes.

I charge for votes.

let me know how many votes youw ant.

Any question? please ask.

Thank you



That is troubling.

Even if an entrant wasn't looking to 'augment' their votes - having such an invitation drop in their laps at the pointy end of the competition might be a temptation that, for some, would be too great to pass up.
 

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #338 on: April 11, 2016, 06:06:42 am »
These graphs would be way more exciting if you guys scaled the X-axis over the duration of the contest, so we could see how much time is left on the clock.   8)

I second this.  From start to end

The graph would be more exciting if the orange line was on top :)

I agree.

All Carlos needs to do is find out how David got his 'boosts'.  They are quite staggering.  If kosher, Carlos should do that himself.  I'm still curious what David did for those....

Nilu's Sunday catapult is rather amazing.  I get the impression of a a big school rally with voting cheerleaders...
 

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #339 on: April 11, 2016, 06:08:11 am »
So David K. got more than 1600 votes in less than 24h? You really have to wonder  :-//

Impossible by legit means. If I entered this and got 50k views on a promo video, I would struggle to get 1000 people to vote.
 

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #340 on: April 11, 2016, 06:09:55 am »
All Carlos needs to do is find out how David got his 'boosts'.  They are quite staggering.  If kosher, Carlos should do that himself.  I'm still curious what David did for those....
Nilu's Sunday catapult is rather amazing.  I get the impression of a a big school rally with voting cheerleaders...

Easy:
https://www.buycontestvotes.com/
http://www.buyvoteslikes.com/
http://www.buycontestvote.com/
https://www.buyvotescheap.com/
 

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #341 on: April 11, 2016, 06:11:10 am »
That is troubling.
Even if an entrant wasn't looking to 'augment' their votes - having such an invitation drop in their laps at the pointy end of the competition might be a temptation that, for some, would be too great to pass up.

Yes, the majority of people would not know you can simply buy votes.

If I was Keysight I'd contact Nilu and David and ask them to prove where and how they were able to garner so many votes. If it's legit, then proof is easy. "I posted it on Facebook and all my friends voted would be a demonstrably BS answer".
Carlos can obviously point to this forum and the massive amount of campaigning he's done.
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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #342 on: April 11, 2016, 06:18:22 am »
All Carlos needs to do is find out how David got his 'boosts'.  They are quite staggering.  If kosher, Carlos should do that himself.  I'm still curious what David did for those....
Nilu's Sunday catapult is rather amazing.  I get the impression of a a big school rally with voting cheerleaders...

Easy:
https://www.buycontestvotes.com/
http://www.buyvoteslikes.com/
http://www.buycontestvote.com/
https://www.buyvotescheap.com/

If so, it would seem somewhat against the spirit of the competition - but how could it be detected?
 

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #343 on: April 11, 2016, 06:27:34 am »
If I was Keysight I'd contact Nilu and David and ask them to prove where and how they were able to garner so many votes. If it's legit, then proof is easy. "I posted it on Facebook and all my friends voted would be a demonstrably BS answer".

While a statistical analysis and experience might agree that the indication is very clear, is that a sufficiently adequate cause to act as if it is absolutely proven?


Considering the fact that vote buying is not exactly new, I would hope there are means to track these down.

If it were possible, I'd like to see the MAC addresses (better than IP addresses) of every voting machine collated from multiple competitions, grouped by category of competition, to see if there is a trend.  The only way vote sellers could bypass this is to have frequent MAC address changes.

If that's not such a great idea - then what would be?
 

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #344 on: April 11, 2016, 06:46:33 am »
If so, it would seem somewhat against the spirit of the competition - but how could it be detected?

Sometime it's hard, because these are actual Facebook accounts and real people doing the voting.
Often they are from one country, like Malaysia or Indonesia for example, as I demonstrated in my Batteriser Dislike video.
I think the easiest way if for Keysight to simply ask them to prove where the votes came from.
 

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #345 on: April 11, 2016, 06:47:45 am »
If I was Keysight I'd contact Nilu and David and ask them to prove where and how they were able to garner so many votes. If it's legit, then proof is easy. "I posted it on Facebook and all my friends voted would be a demonstrably BS answer".
While a statistical analysis and experience might agree that the indication is very clear, is that a sufficiently adequate cause to act as if it is absolutely proven?

Nothing can be "proven", but it's a pretty safe way to bet.
 

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #346 on: April 11, 2016, 07:01:52 am »
Side note, there are also vote sharing sites. You spend time voting on other contests, in exchange they vote for you. I'd image those are even harder to detect because the people are real, and the votes are probably not regional.
 

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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #347 on: April 11, 2016, 07:19:16 am »
Easy:
https://www.buycontestvotes.com/
http://www.buyvoteslikes.com/
http://www.buycontestvote.com/
https://www.buyvotescheap.com/

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Yes, we send votes from real looking accounts owned by us and these are active facebook accounts which are often logged in. We also use high parameters to provide votes and they are delivered manually.

I believe the right thing would be for Keysight to cancel the contest until they can come up with a better method  :-[
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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #348 on: April 11, 2016, 07:27:33 am »
Another thing that's a potential problem - is that the contestant doesn't need to be the one to buy the votes ... they will just benefit from them (if they don't get caught).  A well meaning (if unscrupulous) supporter could get them disqualified.
 
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Re: Keysight 6000X 6Ghz Voting Is Live vote for Carlos A.
« Reply #349 on: April 11, 2016, 07:29:28 am »
Maybe anyone can win with 10,000 votes  for $549

Maybe we should start a IG campaign for Carlos to raise $549   :-DD

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